The London Bombings - 7/7/05 - Conspiracies, politics, commentary

[Zamo 10]

If there really is a god then I'm sure he hates religion.

 

Why would any good, all-powerful "being" want others to worship him? Surely, if god really does exist, he isn't so vain or egotistical?

 

I'm sure that if there is a god who created us all, that he feels towards us as I feel towards my children. That he loves us unconditionally. He'd never threaten to burn us in hell for eternity because we hadn't given due "respect".

 

If god existed then he'd have great parenting skills. There is no way that he would try to teach us, his children, right from wrong by whispering cryptic messages in the ears of other kids and telling them to pass it on. That would be lazy, chav like, parenting and I'm sure that if god does exist that he wouldn't be a chav.

 

No, it makes no sense. If there was a god he'd be a nice guy and a responsible parent. The god that all mainstream religions teach us about just isn't nice enough if you ask me. I wouldn't go for a drink with him.

 

If god exists then he can be nothing like any of the mainstream religions say he is. I therefore conclude, as is the only logical conclusion, that religions have made up a god for people to fear because you can control people through fear.

 

For gods sake people... give up religion!

[sheffco 10]

Very sorry - - - But Islam doe's appear to be mentioned more in the latest reports - - If not, nationalities in fact. (West Yorks).

It is not a matter of religion, more a matter of belief in how to spread that religion.

To think that there are little cells of fanatics living amongst us?

Tighten things up folks.

These people are insular, tend to wear grey or dark clothing, do not socialise, are olive complexioned, and speak furtively with a non-english accent.

[LordChaverly 10]

Originally posted by Zamo

If there really is a god then I'm sure he hates religion.

 

Why would any good, all-powerful "being" want others to worship him? Surely, if god really does exist, he isn't so vain or egotistical?

 

I'm sure that if there is a god who created us all, that he feels towards us as I feel towards my children. That he loves us unconditionally. He'd never threaten to burn us in hell for eternity because we hadn't given due "respect".

 

If god existed then he'd have great parenting skills. There is no way that he would try to teach us, his children, right from wrong by whispering cryptic messages in the ears of other kids and telling them to pass it on. That would be lazy, chav like, parenting and I'm sure that if god does exist that he wouldn't be a chav.

 

No, it makes no sense. If there was a god he'd be a nice guy and a responsible parent. The god that all mainstream religions teach us about just isn't nice enough if you ask me. I wouldn't go for a drink with him.

 

If god exists then he can be nothing like any of the mainstream religions say he is. I therefore conclude, as is the only logical conclusion, that religions have made up a god for people to fear because you can control people through fear.

 

For gods sake people... give up religion!

 

I see you have taken Joe's stricture above to heart.

[Zamo 10]

Originally posted by LordChaverly

I see you have taken Joe's stricture above to heart.

 

 

Of course... that's why I didn't compare religions but tarred them all with the same dirty brush!

[JoeP 11]

I'm sorry....

 

Do I have to add 'and if we don't get back on track I'll pull posts and ban folks?'

 

Joe

 

[DanSumption 10]

OK, I've started a new thread where we can all discuss the pros and cons of religion like civilised human beings, without further polluting this one.

 

Now, back to the topic - anyone got any juicy conspiracy theories.

[LordChaverly 10]

It has just been announced on the news that houses are being raided in Leeds in connection with the bombing. It said (and this is still of course speculation) that the bombers may have travelled from Leeds to Kings Cross.

 

Time will tell if this is a major breakthrough or a wild goose chase.

[Belle 10]

Originally posted by JoePritchard

I'm sorry....

 

Do I have to add 'and if we don't get back on track I'll pull posts and ban folks?'

 

Joe

 

 

I think you need some homework on the work of a moderator

 

This is not the first time I have felt obliged to comment on your moderating.

 

Last night at 9pm you were happily contributing long posts on the subject of Islam and quoting from holy books.

 

Now you are objecting.

 

What is the matter Joe? Did it get too boring for you?

 

When are you going to let people's conversations range where they want?

 

You took us out of the last thread and brought us into this new one because we wanted to talk about ramifications. Now you want to move us again.

 

(Before you ask, I of course believe that you are free to pull anything genuinely offensive or likely to break the law - particularly the new law proposed which will outlaw incitement to hatred. I think you should remove far more posts than you actually do as a matter of fact.)

 

I cannot think this is the kind of moderating Geoff had in mind.

[slimsid2000 10]

Originally posted by Zamo

And you are happy for governments and secret squirrel organisations to decide who is human and who is not?

 

You are happy for MI5 to pick you up, detain you indefinantly without access to lawers or appeal and to torture you just because you fit the profile of the sort of person drawn to extremist groups (sad loner, misfit, never had a girlfriend, doesn't know how to interact, has no friends, low IQ etc, etc.)?

 

I'd have to say yes, it is achance I am prepared to take if such methods are necessary to prevent future attacks. However, I feel that I am in more danger from future terrorism than from the security services.

[Zamo 10]

Originally posted by slimsid2000

I'd have to say yes, it is achance I am prepared to take if such methods are necessary to prevent future attacks. However, I feel that I am in more danger from future terrorism than from the security services.

 

So you'd advocate a Saddam Hussein style of governance for this country. Interesting.

[John 11]

Thread too big for me to check if this is already mentioned but the BNP has already taken advantage of this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4674675.stm

[slimsid2000 10]

My point is simply that I feel more at risk from terrorism than by being mistakenly picked up by the security services.