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Well you could say it's being constructive in attempting to say, however bluntly, that we loved Spinrocs before and don't think it needed changing! Especially not to what some might say is a slightly crass name. Well, it is IMO

For the people asking about veggie options here, they do any of the veggie 'side dishes' as main courses if you ask. I've had a great pea paneer dish as a main from there, though for some reason their paneer melts into the curry. Still tastes amazing. Got to say, maybe takeaway might be the best option if you fancy eating from Rajputs, as it always seems to be rammed, on a weekend especially.

And do they still stop anyone getting in even if they're wearing a hooded top and aren't actually a 'hoodie'?! I'm sure happymonday might be able to enlighten me on that one...

I'm not trying to be very rude, Shoegal, but you comment on this board as if it's not a public forum. You say to Pippadoll that you welcome constructive criticism, and furthermore chuck all kinds of thanks to her for her comments, but when someone comes on a public board and makes legitimate comments that *don't* have an ulterier motive, you get shirty with me! You responded to me most recently by saying you only welcome constructive criticisms - well, to be honest, this is not the place to only receive positive feedback. It's an open resource and allows freedom of expression, right mods? You also say you are only willing to listen to a comment from someone who has actually 'experienced' your restaurant. Well, as I say, I did experience the restaurant by going in with four mates and deciding not to eat there because of the poor selection of veggie food, which you're looking at revising, and the fact that it was so far away from what we experienced with Spinrocs, which we all agreed there was nothing wrong with. You say I've got some kind of sinister motive here, but I've really not. In fact, it looks like you're just being touchy and defending your place through a Sheffield-wide board where people are allowed to have an opinion, no matter how damning that is

Shoegal - I was merely expressing my opinion on the demise of what was already an excellent restaurant and agreeing with the previous poster's opinion about the lack of vegetarian options, which used to abound at Spinrocs. The only agenda I've got is in pointing out the fact that the change of direction does not suit me for one, but also confuses customers because of the two sides of the restaurant. I'm sorry if that seems confusing to me, the fact that you have one half of the restaurant as a, let's say, half-hearted restaurant, and the other a 'grill' restaurant. I was disappointed last time I went to be told that the menu had gone, replaced by a small selection of tapas, and really, if that's what we came for that's what we were disappointed by. Woe betide me, the customer, for having an opinion! But certainly you lost at least four customers because of the change in direction. Sorry

OK Squiggs, sure. But are you trying to tell me people buy BMW X5s and Range Rover Sports so they can help people out in the snow?! Don't make me laugh!

I wouldn't say all Range Rover drivers are like this, but here's an example to back up sibon's point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7654430.stm

@Mrbenn - that's nearly double what smaller cars have to pay in road tax. Plus costs of essentials like tyres, servicing, even petrol, you're coming out as being more expensive as most cars on the road. And for others to say it's not much different from driving an average 2 litre, I think you should set the litre bracket lower. @Ashi23 - thanks for getting back to me on that, but I think you're wrong to call my view 'rose-tinted'. I mean, come on, to say people in society have a basic amount of respect for each other isn't pushing things into cloud-cuckoo land. And furthermore, I can't understand how you can call yourself a non-conformist. FFS, non-conformists are people who go against the grain, and wouldn't buy into the idea that owning a 4WD makes you somehow radical. Maybe if you really had to have one, like if you were, say, a particular kind of farmer going against the grain of European policy or something. I drive a Pug 106 from the 90s (well-serviced, efficient, cheap). Now I'd say that was more unconventional/non-conformist!

That's not my point - I'm just saying you're paying the govn. more money than if you had a smaller car. For people that are so, like, "I'm not doing something because the loony left want me to", why would you opt to put more money into their coffers buy buying a car in a high tax bracket?

Maybe you should be asking yourself those questions instead Ashi - you've obviously got them on your mind. If everyone acted without any sense of a wider community or a sense of some, even basic, kind of civic duty, nothing would ever get done and you'd live in a much much worse society than we do now. But I'm sure you're just baiting us, right? Maybe there will come a time, and it might come sooner than you think, when you won't have the chance to have a 4WD just because you don't want others having a say in your life. I mean car manufacturers are already putting out cars with limits on their Co2 production. In the end, anyway, it's up to you. Don't believe in environmental damage? Fine, have it your way. Don't care how much money you stick in your petrol tank? Fine, fill it up. Don't care how much your tax is gonna cost? Fine, pay the government through the teeth.

I think the fish n chip flavour Walkers taste like a poor quality and anaemic version of Scampi Fries. There's not enough difference there to make Walkers stand out. I came up with my own flavour when bored to death in (by?) a Wetherspoon's recently: buy a pack of Steak and Onion flavour then grab a few packs of Heinz Horseradish sauce, rip open the crisps then pour the horseradish on to the open pack and dip your crisps in. It's like a meal in itself. You have to have had at least one pint to fully appreciate the taste senstation though.

Good idea Goldenfleece - I'm not saying what you have on the paper notices is wrong, it just appears to the innocent eye a bit like the kind of notices on doctor's waiting room walls/police entrances!

Had a terrible experience at Butler's, Broad Lane, last Friday night. Staff dumped us for a drink in the downstairs room, saying it would be 5 mins for a table, then left us there for over an hour. We chatted away, forgot about the time, then realised, complained and then argued for ages about whether what we were saying was true. It's no way to treat customers. Suffice to say, we didn't tip and I'll certainly never go back there.

I think it's to do with the now-illegal bull-bars that once used to be attached to every 'Chelsea Tractor' in town. E.g. the driver's safe as houses, for everyone else it's a case of getting out of the way. I suppose that's verified by the experience the post about Broomgrove Rd; get out of the way, or get hit, beggar my neighbour and ignore common courtesy...

Having walked around Broomhill earlier on today I can say with some degree of assurance that people driving 4x4s are significantly more irresponsible on the road, especially in adverse conditions, than most other drivers. I've seen a few of those massive Mitsubishi crop-top beasts ragging down the road, without any care for all those pedestrians slipping all over the place, or even walking in the road where it's gritted. Plus, the majority of them seem to be connected with the aristocracy dropping their little princes and princesses off at the private schools, leaving their engines idling for hours and blocking residents' drives and parking spots. Same with MPVs. Fair enough, if you live in the country/do off-roading/need a big car for manual work, then have a 4x4, but for other purposes, they're just for status, greed and unnecessary comfort. I can't understand why some people think it's 'cool' or some kind of compensation for a hard working life to get a car that guzzles your money away, damages the environment, and makes you drive like Mr Burns from the Simpsons when faced with the plebs, e.g. over their feet/bodies.

I second that opinion pippadoll. Used to love going to Spinrocs and would invite all our mates there whenever they visited, but since it's been split up the veggie options have declined, and who wants 'snack' tapas; that kind of takes away from the idea of going out for a meal like people used to at Spinrocs? We don't exactly excel at that sort of thing in the UK. Sure, Spain has tapas as a snack type selection of dishes, but they give them out free with drinks at bars to keep you going. They don't charge you for the pleasure, and make you feel like you're not really eating out at the same time because the 'real' restaurant is next door! IMO, the Grill on the Hill looks tacky, it's got a tacky name, tacky sign, it has served to denigrate the excellent quality food of Spinrocs, and I actually hope people boycott it until it wises up a bit. It was so embarrassing having to be told, last time I went there with 4 friends, that they no longer do Spinrocs old menu and having to look at both menus in both sides of the restaurant only to find they have a tiny vegetarian selection before deciding to leave and order a takeout instead.

To get back to issues with the decor and refurbishment of the York, could I weigh in with an opinion. It was my first time in the York since it used to be an O'Neill's in 2001; I've avoided it since then due to the Scream refit. Not that it was better as an O'Neill's. Anyway, like the idea, great theory behind it looking back at the earlier part of this thread. What I wanted to say was - and this applies to the Dove and Rainbow too - what's with all the A4 paper signs everywhere? I assume people can kind of make their own minds up about certain things, or else deduct what's going on, without having to walk around the pub seeing stuff like 'Pub closed on Saturday due to a police notice' or one above the D&R bar describing the finer points of alcohol taxation and the chain of debtors involved in the sale of a pint. I've got to say this is a bit of a put-off. A few well-place and well-maintained signs, e.g. on a blackboard, would do the job just as well. Anyway, thanks for a nice pint of 7 Hills. Very good indeed. And very friendly staff.