hillsbro

On 12/01/2023 at 23:56, jgill506 said:

Can anyone remember and give details of the Ironmongers, Neville Watts, who I think were at number 8 Fitzwilliam Street, just below the Raven.

In particular, if anybody can give information on the vans they used it would be great and if any photos were available, that would be awesome.

In case it's of interest, here is a link to some photos on the "picturesheffield" site (scroll down). https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?&action=search2&keywords=Ref_No_increment%2CDate_Period%2CImage_Date%2CTitle%2CFurther_Information%2CKeywords%2CPhotographer%2CImage_Copyright%3BMYSQL_MATCHES%3B"neville+watts"%3B#rowNumber5

On 10/01/2023 at 19:39, lazarus said:

I don’t know if this was the shop you remember, a couple of doors away from the Raven , going towards West Street, was a Butchers called Clayton’s.

On 10/01/2023 at 20:15, Heartshome said:

Yes, they were at -  No 4.  G Clayton

There were other butchers, but I think they were to far away - 181 Bernard Walker & 189 J Barlow

I have Kelly's directories back to the early 1900s, and "G. Clayton, butcher" is listed at No. 4 Fitzwilliam Street from 1971 onwards, but from the 1920s to 1971 No. 4 was "Greenlees & Sons, boot & shoe dealers".

I cannot find a J. Barlow at No. 189 Fitzwilliam Street, but old directories show a "John Barlow, butcher" at 189 Glossop Road.  From c. 1930 to 1939 No. 181 was indeed "Bernard Walker, butcher", but note that No. 181 was destroyed in the 1940 Blitz.

35 minutes ago, heavenmbmaa said:

Does anyone have a list of people who lived in Fitzwilliam street around 1941/2 please

See here from the Kelly's Directory for 1942, compiled in mid-1941. https://postimg.cc/FYJBqfnF

5 hours ago, Dreb48 said:

Well it is indeed hard to believe that we’re on the verge of being  75  …  …  there’s even women amongst them !!

Yes - female Old Edwardians - is nothing sacred?! 😄  Looking at the 1(3) photo on Don's site  I remembered Irving Smith whom  I knew well at school, and then later when we both worked for HSBC in the 1980s+. I took early retirement in 2002 but still occasionally see Irving as he lives n Wadsley.

I forgot to mention that Julian Hunt from our year sadly died aged only 54 in 2003. He was at Malin Bridge Junior with me, along with Victor Edy (now in Skipton) and Melville Norton.

What a long time ago it all was!

4 hours ago, WarPig said:

hillsboro. without wanting to drift off the OP's topic, are there any websites you recommend for building a family tree, and also for seeing the different bloodlines, and printing it all off please? I'm doing more and am currently subscribed to MyHeritage but my sub expires soon.

Hi - I'm not familiar with MyHeritage but apart from subscription sites there are the General Register Office online indexes, also freebmd etc. and the sheffieldindexers site, also the Probate Registry which can be useful for exact dates of death.  In the past I have subscribed to Ancestry and findmypast.co.uk. A few years ago my Ancestry subscription went up  by a factor of 3+, and since then I have used findmypast which I find has just about everything  I need. Like Ancestry it has its own facility for building a family tree, importing photos to the tree etc,, and there are also other family tree software packages available.

Message me if you need any help with any particular aspect of your tree.

In fact it's surprising what you can find out about your forebears, Apart from learning that I am descended from the Emperor Charlemagne  (I almost began signing letters "Yours imperially" 😄) I was recently researching my Lincolnshire ancestors using findmypast's access to the British Newspaper Archive. I learned a little about their deeds - and misdeeds. See here for example regarding my great-great-great-grandfather Benjamin Betts, from the 'Lincolnshire Chronicle' of 9 April 1852. https://i.postimg.cc/xjz0zTf8/Benjamin-Betts.jpg I hope they didn't put old Ben in the same cell as Martha Burrell.

9 minutes ago, Dreb48 said:

Hi Philip 

Nice to see that we both are still alive, and ostensibly well enough, to still continue contributing to these pages 

Are you still in touch with any others from the intake of 59 ?

I fear a large proportion may now have passed to that great assembly hall in the sky 

Hi Paul - yes, still alive and kicking! But we can't be 74 . . SEVENTY-FOUR? . . come off it! But in fact I was reminded of Anno Domini in September when the Queen died - I can remember the Coronation.

I'm still in regular contact with Patrick Burns from our year - he now lives near our Sheffield home in Wadsley. And I occasionally hear from Chris Gilson, who has lived in South Wales since c. 1970. I contacted Alan Chittenden via the Forum a few years ago (and did his family tree - I quite enjoy this sort of research!) Also Don Nicolson via the "Clapton Era" website. This is apart from Ian Minogue who married my sister (in 1978 - I wasn't sure if I should be the best man or a bridesmaid 😄) Of those who have joined N.L.C., A.J., N.J.B., V.A.V., E.L.V. & Co., I don't know of many but Dave Pringle died as long ago as 2003, and David Askham in 2015. John Ramsden died in 2009 (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ramsden_(historian)) But with any luck we'll still be around for quite a while yet!

18 minutes ago, salmonbones said:

Thank you for this info, I believe I have allowed messages now!  I was an old forum member and this wasn't a thing when I was last majorly active.  

 

 

Message duly sent! 🙂

Hi salmonbones - as a (very) Old Edwardian  - same year as Dreb48 - I'd like to help, and I first looked at Sheffield births records in the online General Register Office index. This showed that a Ben Colreavy was born in Sheffield in Jan-Mar 1978, and an Owen Colreavy in Jul-Sep 1979, in each case the mother's maiden surname being given as Howes.

I then looked at electoral rolls. Colreavy is by no means a common surname, and only 30 are listed on the rolls for the whole country (but bear in mind that some people "opt out" of the public part of the roll). Ben Colreavy is not among those listed, but I found an Owen Colreavy at a Manchester address, albeit on the electoral rolls for 2002-2003. Looking for Sheffield Colreavys I found a current one - a Marie Colreavy at an S4 address on the rolls for 2008-2022.

If you open your Forum ID to Private Messages I can send you the two addresses by this method.

Good luck in your quest!

14 hours ago, DavidFrance said:

 

Search Hope Valley Railway Upgrade. It's educational and informative. And gives you advance notice of closures etc. 

I just had a look at the Hope Valley upgrade work. Well, a Bamford passing loop might be useful, also a new platform with lifts at Dore & Totley.

On 15/12/2022 at 17:37, DavidFrance said:

The Brilliant Brit !!  Sadly at Bardney I saw nothing but BR Standards. You probably spent as many hours as I did at the Twentywell Cutting as a lad on a bike..  Have you seen what they're doing there now to undo the evil works of Dr Beeching?  Another case of  "We knew best".  Closing the Chesterfield/Manchester link and making everything go in and then out of the city was plain daft.  But demolishing the island platform was dafter. And Network Rail are spending millions putting in a passing loop at Bamford so that trains will get held up at Picadilly for even longer?   (You will recall I strongly favour 3rd rail electrification for this line and many others serving this region). (We could have driverless trains and call it "levelling up"). 

Yes, the brilliant Brit itself! I thought all my Christmases had come at once when there it was, gathering speed over the Ouse bridge at Ely. We used to get a daily Brit at Sheffield Victoria on the Harwich-Liverpool boat train, and in 1961 I saw 70017 Arrow at the Midland Station (here is a link to my photo).  https://i.postimg.cc/TPc3V5QG/70017.jpg  But 70000 Britannia was something special, and fortunately it's still going strong.

I didn't know that the Chesterfield-Manchester link was being closed - how daft.  I remember about 18 or so years ago some north-south expresses using that link due to a diversion, so it was very useful then.

19 hours ago, DavidFrance said:

. . . I recall being dragged along to Bardney, opposite the sugar factory and spending the most boring day of my life watching the odd train go past and the steam rising from the chimneys.  Somehow it didn't catch on in my genes, Thank God!

Happy Christmas!!

 

Happy Christmas returned!

I can sympathise, as my older brother and I had a much loved great-uncle who took us for a week's holiday every year (otherwise we wouldn't have had a holiday). That's the good news. The bad news was that the aforesaid great-uncle and big brother spent the week fishing. I was duly equipped with a rod, line etc. - but dangling maggots in the water and pulling out the odd tiddler never appealed to me.

On the other hand the "steam rising from the chimneys" aspect DID appeal to me, as I was a keen train-spotter! On one memorable occasion in 1961 I was pretending to fish for tiddlers in the Great Ouse at Ely when along came this wonderful loco, hauling a Norwich-bound train over a bridge 100 yards from when I was pseudo-fishing. Great!

1 hour ago, lazarus said:

I noticed on the photo of the post office that it’s run by a W. Oldfield , I wonder by any chance he was Willie Oldfield/ William Oldfield.

The sign would actually have read "A.W. Oldfield" as Arthur WIlliam Oldfield was sub-postmaster from c. 1922 until his death in 1943.

37 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

Wasn't there a metal urinal toilet there ?

 

Yes, on Meadow Street - here's an old map. https://postimg.cc/Mc7LL6Jc

3 hours ago, sidecarglen said:

Hillsbro, That picture is priceless, Can I include it in my book and if I can can I havee your name so I can attribute it to you

 

sidecarglen (Glen Fallow)

Hi Glen - you are welcome to use the photo, and I'd love to purchase your book when it is published. I have sent you a Private Message with my details.

14 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

loads on google images.

 

Yes - here's another one. I just wish I had the photo of the crash-helmeted, motorcycling dog! https://i.postimg.cc/HWtfRd6r/2222.jpg

5 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

No probs Hillsbro.

I remember you posting the pic some time ago.

There were quite a few of us who used to ride around with 'Zinc' baths on't side.

Happy Daze 

Yes, I have some of the "Shire" books; they are well written and illustrated.

That photo seems to have become something of a "sidecar classic" - it was even published in a Swedish magazine! Here is a link: https://postimg.cc/0M15jqw4

We moved house when I was four and dad didn't have anywhere to keep a motorcycle combination, so it had to be sold. It was bought by a property repairer who replaced the "zinc bath" with a long wooden box for his tools!

Regarding sidecars I always wish I had another photo that I saw years ago. A German motorcyclist living in Munich had a BMW combination. Being something of an amateur engineer, he somehow arranged a system of levers etc. so that it could be driven from the sidecar. He trained his Alsatian dog to sit on the saddle wearing a little crash helmet and goggles, with paws on the handlebars etc. while he sat in the sidecar and drove around town. And they say Germans don't have a sense of humour! But the police thought that this spectacle might distract drivers and cause accidents, so they told him to stop.

21 hours ago, Rockers rule said:

the little book Sidecars by Jo Axon is worth having in anyone's collection.

From as little as £3.55 including the postage off Ebay.

 

 

 

Best of luck with the research Glen

 

Rocker 

Thanks for the tip, Rocker - I've just ordered the book via eBay! I know nothing about sidecars but I'm Hillsborough born & bred and I have fond memories of sidecar holidays in the early 1950s. Here I am with my older sister and brother, peeping out of the "Swallow" sidecar, with dad in charge of the 650 cc. Triumph Thunderbird and mum on the pillion!

Best of luck with the book Glen, I'm sure it will be a good read!

Hi Deb R - looking online and at other resources I was unable to find out much regarding Lilian Bennett, but I have sent you a PM with what I could discover about Alice Bennett's probable family on Woodside Lane etc. Good luck in your quest!

On 19/06/2022 at 20:08, Tincan said:

Hi,

my grandparents were Roy and Mary Cheetham and I wondered if you could send me a copy of the photo you posted as the link doesn’t work? I have just moved my son, their great grandson into a house off Bradfield Road and I was trying to locate where exactly the shop was as I was only three or four when they retired. I have hazy memories of the shop above the flat. Any information you can give me would be much appreciated.

thanks 

Hi - I've replied to your Message. Since then I have found a reliable (I think!) image hosting site. Here is a link to the photo: 

https://postimg.cc/hJysst3h

I also looked in an old Kelly's directory. The shop was at 139 Bradfield Road. Here is a link to a "Google" photo - the "Red Rose" fish & chip shop is at No. 139. https://www.instantstreetview.com/@53.403396,-1.499862,155.77h,5.2p,0.1z,oKaCBC1iqEVM1HP4HXralg

On 21/06/2022 at 23:17, SVerhamme said:

Really appreciate you getting back to me .

thank you so much 

Last time i saw Susan I came up to Sheffield and popped in to see them with my youngest son , they lived on the Wisewood  she was still with Dave and had both children boy and a girl 

Previous year they had popped in to see us in Cornwall during their trip around in a camper van 

Yes John was always a quiet person , he didn’t say much when I went around just came and went lol He was the middle one , Beryl was the eldest and Susan youngest . I knew them for many years from starting school to leaving for Cornwall. 
If you hear anymore would be grateful for any info 

once again thank you ⭐️

Hi - I've sent you a Message with some more details.

On 14/06/2022 at 08:47, SVerhamme said:

Hey there

had a close friend Susan Lindley who lived near the bottom of Dykes Hall Rd She married someone called Dave who lived about halfway up Dykes Hall Rd 

Have lost contact would be grateful if you have any info ?

Hope you’re doing good 🌸

Hi - Susan Lindley lived at No. 35 with her parents, sister Beryl and brother John. She married Dave Cameron in 1974 but I think they later separated or divorced. I was in touch with John Lindley some years ago - he lived at Bridlington but I don't seem to have his contact details, sorry!

20 Dykes Hall Road, Hillsborough, built 1869, demolished 1982. No bathroom, hot water or central heating, outside loo across the yard, coal fire, then gas in the living room, but we were happy there from 1952 until we moved to a modernised house across the road in 1978. Home sweet home!

Hi Davey1889 - I found your Damms family in public records at 33 Wybourn House Road.  Your grandmother's name was Eliza Damms, née Glaves; she and Albert married in 1923. Just thought you might like to know!

Thanks again, Forummers, for adding these details. I really would like to have known Joe  - a character if ever there was one - but I'm just glad I met him all those years ago. Online public records confirm that Joseph Oscar Phillips, born 7 April 1924, died in Sheffield on 22 November 1983.