hillsbro

6 hours ago, DiscoBaby said:

I think I may know this lady,  may I ask why you're enquiring? 

Hi - "Tomboyda" has not visited the Forum since 2013  but there is an email address - [email protected] -  in post #3, so it might be better to use this.

On 25/04/2024 at 15:56, Magneteer said:

I don't remember one on the S bend, but there was also one on Rivelin Valley Rd at the bottom of Hollins Lane by the bridge.

Yes, I remember it well; it is marked "P C B" on this 1950s map. I was told that it met its demise when a runaway vehicle came down the hill opposite and shunted it neatly into the river!

5 hours ago, echo beach said:

That takes me back to the days of my youth hillsbro.

There was a stall in there which bought and sold books which I used to visit on a Saturday with my cousin.

Bought ‘Classic comics’ from there and still have about a dozen of them.

I think the big round edifice in the centre of the hall was a fountain.

 

Thank you, echo.

Yes, it takes me back as well! The secondhand book stall was that of Frank Woore (1876-1953). It continued in the same name after he died, and it eventually moved to the basement of the Castle Market, still in the same name, until the 1980s. The stall also sold stamps for collectors, and the last owner was Ian Uttley, who later had a stamp shop in the Granby Arcade in Bakewell. Here is a list of Norfolk Market Hall stallholders in the 1954 Kelly's Directory.

1 hour ago, GabrielC said:

According to Hillsbro Haymarket I'm guessing facing the Old Town Hall such a shame it went .

Here it is on an old map.

1 hour ago, hackey lad said:

Where was this ? 

It was in Haymarket, between Dixon Lane and Exchange Street (the site later occupied by Woolworth's, then Wilko). Here is an early 1900s interior view.

17 hours ago, Runningman said:

Norfolk Market Hall

Yes, it was a pity to lose this building; it was demolished in 1959.  Here it is on a postcard dated 1906, soon after the Haymarket frontage had been rebuilt in 1904-05.

17 hours ago, St Petre said:

I think at one time that part of Norfolk Street (Arundel Gate to Fitzalan Square) for whatever reason. had it's name changed to Esperanto Place.

The change in name to Esperanto Place is explained in the book "Street Names of Sheffield" by the late Peter Harvey.

1 hour ago, St Petre said:

I think at one time that part of Norfolk Street (Arundel Gate to Fitzalan Square) for whatever reason. had it's name changed to Esperanto Place.

Yes, Norfolk Street extended to the corner of Fitzalan Square where the Elephant Inn was - indicated by the arrow on this old map. The Elephant's address was 2-4 Norfolk Street.

Here is a screenprint with the result of the Probate search. PDF copies of Wills  or Grants of Probate are available by online application for £1.50.

Here is an extract from the "1939 Register" which was prepared on the outbreak of war. The G.R.O. deaths index shows that Donald Wellwood Cowan died in Barnsley in Jan-Mar 2005, and the Probate index gives the date of death as 23 January, probate being granted at Leeds on 9 March (he seems to have died intestate).

On 05/04/2024 at 21:19, GabrielC said:

Nice bike. My Dad was a biker in his younger days too, the motorbikes he once had were a  Honda then my favourite a Triumph with a sidecar that had to be weighted down with a sandbag in the nose of the sidecar  because it lift up on bends! . . . . .My all time favourite bike is the Vincent Black Shadow Im not keen on modern bikes.

 

 

 

 

I used to live next door to a man with a Vincent Black Shadow - I was jealous! My dad also had a Triumph with a sidecar - it was a 650cc. Triumph Thunderbird and Swallow Harvard sidecar. But with five of us on board it didn't lift up on bends! Here we are at Skegness in 1951- I am the 3 year-old kid just peeping out of the sidecar!

5 hours ago, MICK BADGER said:

would that have been from infirmary road or Flora street

I bought the Bantam from the shop at 9-11 Langsett Road, and they moved to the Flora Street premises the following year so I bought the Starfire there!

On 03/04/2024 at 10:48, classicfan said:

Bought my 1966 BSA Bantam KRB 725 D from Charlie in 1967, cost me £100.00. Passed my test on it, as did my brother and a load of mates. Traded it in for a 1961 Norton 99SS,  905 UPK that cost me  £145.00 in 1967. Had it until 1971 when I sold it to get married.  The bike doesn't seem to be around any more, but the wife is!

Glad to hear your wife it still going strong! I bought a 1969 D14 Bantam from Leather & Simpson; cost me £132. I also passed my test on it - great little machine. I traded it in for a BSA 250cc. Starfire two years later. Enjoyed both bikes.

1 hour ago, Draggletail said:

Well done, now that you mention it,  Applebaum's was on the corner of  Mappin Street! Thank you for refreshing my memory! I remember it from early 80s to early 90s ish. I think they might have moved to Chapel Walk after that, but could be a false memory...

Here is the founder, Jakob David Applebaum. Born in Poland, he came to Britain in the early 1900s with his German-born wife Clara and daughter Rosie. He had a varied career in business; at the time of the 1911 census he was a self-employed “Traveller, pictorial postcards” resident in Liverpool. In 1921, still in Liverpool, he was a “Merchant, hosiery and woven underwear agent, and in the “1939 Register” he appears as a “Wholesale book merchant” living with Clara and Rosie on Kingfield Road, Sheffield.

On 12/03/2024 at 17:08, Draggletail said:

I have a strong memory of Appelbaums's been on West St.  Albert Pub on Division St? How long are you going back to here?

 

Just looking online I found this note of Applebaum's at 298 West Street (on the corner of Mappin Street) but I don't know the date.

Here are the four liveries in my "collection". The original 1974 "Coffee and Cream" was awful; it went down so badly with local people that they darkened the "Coffee"! The old Cream  and Dark Blue was always popular.

Here is an article about the new building from the 'Sheffield Daily Telegraph' of 22 October 1907.

13 hours ago, sadbrewer said:

I did some genealogy on it Hillsboro, they are almost certainly related but several generations before.. but the spelling had  changed. . . . I think it is almost proven that they were related, but that the actual shared Grandparent is back in the 18th century, possibly not within a 100 years of either Albert or William's birth."

That's interesting, sadbrewer. Being interested in family history (especially since I learned that my great-grandmother Ann Robinson, née Beresford was descended from Sir Thomas Beresford, who fought at Agincourt in 1415!) I did the same sort of online research 10-15 years ago, with pretty much the same result.  I'm sure that the Pierrepoint and Pierrepont people are distantly related, the difficulty being in establishing a link in this case!

But the belief in Sheffield that William Pierrepont of Sheffield was related to Albert Pierrepoint the executioner is more recent than any putative family connection, being based on simple confusion of the two surnames. I doubt very much that William the greengrocer would have claimed to be related to Albert the hangman!

On 27/11/2023 at 15:36, Runningman said:

There was no connection with that family and the family of the executioner

I'm sure there was a post on here years ago with that information

Quite right - the spelling is different - the executioner was Albert PierrePOINT and the shop was owned by William PierrePONT (1905-79) and there does not seem to be a connection. Here is a link to one of several old threads on the subject!

In Hillsborough (of course 🙂) at the Park Hotel, and 57 years on it's still there as "The Park".

Hi crazy55 - I found the Albert Sykes you mention in public records. Albert and Doreen were married in 1958 and they still live at Foxhill according to the electoral roll. So there won't be a connection with the Albert Sykes that Deborah is enquiring about who was born in 1917.

Hi Deborah - if you are still in the Forum I've sent you a Private Message, having found some relevant information.  Also, William & Jane's likely children were Jessie, born 1915, Florence, born 1916, Albert & William Jnr., twins born 1917, Beatrice May, born 15 November 1920 but evidently adopted, Nellie, born 1921, Clifford A., born 1924, Ernest, born 1928, John, born 1929 and Reginald J., born 1930.

1 hour ago, Dreb48 said:

Im  sure it all changed with the introduction of First and Second Class Post .

When I was a SubPostmaster it was always cheaper to send a greetings card abroad if it was unsealed 

Yes, that was the case when there was still a postcard / printed paper / unsealed greetings card rate for overseas mail. I don't know when this changed but for inland mail the postcard etc. rate disappeared with the introduction of First and Second Class post in September 1968. Between 1965 and 1968  the inland letter rate was 4d and the postcard etc. rate 3d. The new rates were First Class 5d and Second Class 4d.

On 14/04/2023 at 22:37, gaz 786 said:

Great to hear from you hilsbro😳😯

Yes, I'm still around, still going (fairly) strong! I dunno - 75! 😮🙂

I know the feeling. I have just turned 75, and I recently learned that at least five of my former classmates at Malin Bridge Junior School have died. 🤨 Here we all are in 1959; I am at the far left of the second row back, next to headmaster Frank Courage. Ashley Davis, next to me, died in 2013.