Grappler

2 minutes ago, bungleboy69 said:

I dont think they've raised the money to buy it have they? I assumed they'd raised money to maybe lease the pub or perhaps only do a feasibility study on bringing it back into use. They will also need a large sum of money to renovate it, I'd imagine at least £300k, probably more. 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong.

As the old saying goes mate, never assume anything, in business.

They raised the money to buy it.  They put in a bid with Enterprise Inns.  They also paid to have a professional evaluator come in and tell them exactly what the building was worth, as a pub, in the current (at that time) market.  Local contractors and suppliers came in and met the community team, inside the pub, and priced up what needed doing (rewiring, plumbing, bringing the kitchen back into a usable state, etc.) this included bringing the upstairs function room back into service, as a room to rent out.

So they bid what they were advised to bid (to buy a pub, not housing development land)  and also knew what it would cost in refurbishment. 

On 04/08/2020 at 10:13, Brooker11 said:

Don't forget SUFC were handed an embargo that they kept quiet but was revealed in the High Court, is some rule breaking acceptable?

If you could show us all where the EFL handed SUFC an embargo, which they  (the EFL) would have been duty bound to let every other member club know about, that would be great.

I seem to think you may be talking about when Steve Bettis (the CEO of SUFC) informed the EFL, out of duty to the club, and courtesy to the EFL, that with the owners at loggerheads about who should put how much money in, we would sail close the wind in funding, resulting in giving notice that we would be in a transfer embargo.

Within a few weeks, we had signed half a dozen players (including I think, current players John Lundstram and George Baldock), so, not much of an embargo, eh?

23 hours ago, Fudbeer said:

Next to no chance of it being a pub again imo. Nobody wanted to invest before but now with many existing pubs struggling to survive cant see anyone wanting to spend the huge investment needed here, the place is a mess.

You mean apart from the community group who raised money to buy it?

On 19/07/2020 at 08:46, Grappler said:

Mooks mate, you could do a lot worse than keeping Neil Warnock on for a season or two, he knows how to motivate and get teams playing. 

 

He splits opinion at SWFC, but I think a substantial number of their fans know, deep down, he would have their team in a top 6 finish, given time.

 

Boro to win this one, Assombalonga first to score.

 

 

 

Well, at least someone listens to me! 

I'll keep an eye on your team next season Monks, will be interesting to see how NW goes about taking you lot up into the top six. 

Terrible decision by the EFL and panel, points deduction should have been more than 12 points, for the devious stunt pulled by Chancer's "advisors", and shame on him for going along with it. 

We'll probably never get the full details of why a  company up in West Yorkshire helped closed down "Sheffield 4", via voluntary insolvency,  a company that had no bank account, so it couldn't actually trade, but instead of filling in a Companies House form to close it down (five minute job), it took an insolvency team in Heckmondwike area to do it, and cost 18,000 pounds.

Charlton have good reason to complain, the points deduction should have taken place this season. 

Luckily, as at least one person on here keeps reminding us, Mester Chancer is a "brilliant, top businessman", so no doubt the books will be perfect next time around.

Great idea.  I assume your design also would be applicable in other areas/industries?

I would advise you to patent the idea (this can take time) if at all possible.

Anything that can get rid of single use plastics should be welcomed by everyone.

44 minutes ago, NERVY-OWL said:

Unless you have an inside take on the hearing you don't know that. The fake companies thing was allowed, it's the ground the EFL are saying wasn't right. None of us know what evidence either side have. If it's proven then fair enough we deserve it but nothings proven yet.

 

I think everyone knows what the evidence is Nervy?, it's a case of what the punishment is that no one knows, except those on the panel, deciding it. 

Mooks mate, you could do a lot worse than keeping Neil Warnock on for a season or two, he knows how to motivate and get teams playing. 

He splits opinion at SWFC, but I think a substantial number of their fans know, deep down, he would have their team in a top 6 finish, given time.

Boro to win this one, Assombalonga first to score.

On 17/07/2020 at 22:13, Brooker11 said:

The exact opposite has been true with Wigan.

So the owner who is the only debtor would go into administration so he'd lose all his own money? 😂

Wigan - true, but isn't it the case there that their owner has put (or is putting) them into administration? And EFL rules are that this would automatically be a 12 points deduction, which all members of the EFL know.  Not much chance of the EFL hiding that one.

8 hours ago, bassett one said:

unless they have decided theres no case to answer /innocent,how if guilty can they possibly give us a points deducation for this season as its to late /appeal ect.?

Someone said (online somewhere, so take it with a pinch of salt), that they can't divulge the result, because if it were a points deduction, there is a chance that SWFC players could say, "ah well, nothing to really play for now, and no point getting injured for nothing" and they stop being competitive and stop trying.  If they stop trying then a team who they should be beating, could beat them, and that could impact teams staying up or going down.  

So they have to wait until the end of the season and then give the result.

Not sure I have explained that very well, but you get what I mean, I hope.

Not saying any of that is true, but it sort of makes sense.

What a performance.  The pride of Sheffield showing Chelsea how to play football.

If Chris Wilder and Alan Knill are allowed to build on the foundations they have already put in place, we could be in for an incredible run.

Up The  Blades. 

Well we managed a great comeback in the away leg, hoping to go one better and win today.  No easy games in this league but our "pre-lockdown" form seems to be coming back, fingers crossed. 

1 hour ago, Moistened said:

Rumours of administration doing the rounds. League One next season and a transfer embargo? 

 

Dark times for the Owls. 

I would say that a "rumour" is simply that, and nothing more.

What purpose would going into administration serve?

On 07/07/2020 at 18:46, Grappler said:

Wolves away was a good game and a good day out.  This time I think it will be a lot tougher.

Well, it was, sort of, but this time we kept a clean sheet.

Good perfromance, Ben Osborn is really trying hard to cement his place in the starting line up.

Almost back to our pre-lockdown form, let's keep it up.

Wolves away was a good game and a good day out.  This time I think it will be a lot tougher.

Good game and we played well, really wanted the clean sheet but I'll forgive them that.

No O'Connell, Fleck and Lundstram was a bit scary, before kick off, but once we got into our stride we looked comfortable.   No Luke Freeman option either.  Hope the physio team are ready for the challenge of getting those four fit and ready (Lunny might take longer, with the dislocated shoulder). 

There is a fair bit of ground to make up, to get anywhere near Man Utd and Wolves, but knowing Chris Wilder, he'll have the lads ready for the final push.

It's been a great season (apart from the Corona Virus stuff, obviously). 

On 25/06/2020 at 16:58, E.R.N said:

Man Utd v Sheffield Utd

                                                     This game was like watching Sheffield Wednesday against Man City in the fa cup ,Wednesday were out played and so were Sheffield Utd in this game.

How Sheffield Utd are where they are in the league I will never know , they played like a mid table campionship  club.

As  there luck   finally  ran out.

"....As  there luck   finally  ran out...."

You don't get where we are on luck pal, not at this stage of the season, it's on merit.  

As has already been said, if it was Cheleas, Man Utd, Man City, etc., it would have been a different story. 

Still, 6th in the World's best league is not too bad.   If we miss out on Europe by one point, or if Villa stay up by one point (or one goal, difference), then it could get really interesting.

If you are a season ticket holder, the club (SUFC) have paid Sky Sports for 2 day passes for everyone.  You will get them via email and you get two code numbers, each one will give you 24 hours access to Sky Sports on the Now TV app.  So you get to watch two games of your choice. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52833725  

Shame it is behind closed doors of course. 

"...The Premier League season is set to restart on 17 June with Aston Villa v Sheffield United and Manchester City v Arsenal, the BBC has learned.

The matches are the two games in hand.

A full fixture list would then be played on the weekend of 19-21 June.

Clubs are still discussing the idea at a meeting on Thursday, but it is understood all have agreed in principle at this stage..."

Could be to do with the change of ownership (on paper), to tie it in with the new companies accounting period maybe? 

On 06/05/2020 at 14:35, Michael_W said:

There is a fine line between success and failure in all walks of life, let alone football, no one person has the answer to the rights and wrongs because there are too many if's and but's, Chansiri gambled and failed, close but no cigar, so it's easy to criticise his failings now of course, had we not had his investment would we have been anywhere near the top 6 in the Championship in the last five years ? Nobody know's !

As for that lot at S2 they have got their luck back with a manager who has a formula that for now has been a reasonable success considering the financial outlay, which in turn these day's is very rare, the question is now how long can it be sustained and will it bring them success they have struggled to achieve for a long time .... we will all have to wait and see.

As for young Hirst, he chased the money, good luck to him, he will need it because I can see big changes in the finances in and around professional football, and in general coming soon.

A long time?, you mean since we were last in the Premier League?

6 minutes ago, bassett one said:

but spending big is fine and its worked for many clubs,look at wolves last season,villa and many more,just need a top manager,but if a top manager can do it cheap like united that's great as well.

Fair enough if you think that's the solution pal, everyone entitled to an opinion.

There will be no festivals this Summer.

My guess is that they either refund everybody or they give the option to postpone to next year (in other words, you don't get your money back but you get a ticket next year instead).

On 20/04/2020 at 12:14, bassett one said:

people can lose as much money as they can afford ,if like our man has loads of cash being made by other companys,if spending doesn't count how come all top league clubs spend big?,you can never have to much cash as a football owner ,as in the long run,its hard to profit from it,man city,man utd,liverpool dominate on a constant basis on this rule,but the main point is swfc ,we need to sort it until we again get back with the big clubs.

Can't quite fathom this bit "...people can lose as much money as they can afford ,if like our man has loads of cash being made by other companys,if spending doesn't count how come all top league clubs spend big?..."

I think you are saying that you should throw more money at it, as you think that is the only way to get promoted.

What I am saying is you tried that, and it didn't work.