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sorry!!!! im not accepting it has problems, have I just not said that. I have not always said that. It IS a decent area. not as good as it once was admittedly but not as bad as the star article potrayed. that is all I am saying, it is not as bad as the star said. there are decent people living all over sheffield believe it or not and no just because of that it does not make an area great, never said that. said there were some good people here and they like myself never encountered problems. i feel that it is not an extremely very very very crime/drug/asbo ridden area. we hav some of that as I have mentioned before. course we do. but I FEEL myself that it is NOT AS BAD AS POTRAYED IN THE STAR ARTICLE. never said the valley was the epitome of greatness. how can I be used to the problems when I have never had any? there are bad problems here, if you read all the posts you will see. but you seem to acknowledge these problems but seem to ignore all the good posts on here. so just cos there are bad reviews of the area, its v v v v v v bad, ignore the good posts, it is not heaven in the valley, nowhere is. good and bad points like everywhere else. but I have had a good life here and will continue to as will my family. ok. and miss1889 it is the valley up there, just as kids we always thought of it as hemsworth. remember the 43 bus used to be hemsworth, we all thought it was a different area. we were kids. and its just what you grow up with thats all.

I have never said there is no trouble. I have said thatI have never had any trouble, and so have a lot of other people. and what zebra and plaintalker have been through it terrible beyond words. would never disagree with that. There is trouble here. and maybe I am fortunate not to have had any but there are a large amount of people who have never had any trouble. Iknow a family who live near mansfield road and at the moment they are going through hell there with gangs of youths causing so much trouble for them. , this kind of culture, unfortunately happening on nearly every area. I am defending the valley cos it is just like any other estate, good and bad points. think lioness would agree with that. she has said much the same thing. I think the fact that the valley has a few block of flats does not help. they really need to come down, also years ago there were pensioner flats, now they are let out to young people, but there are still some pensioners living there, underneath the younger ones and this causes mayhem. its a sad state of affairs when the youths can not show any respect for anyone. Gleadless Valley does have a lot of good people here and I just want to get that across, we not all criminals and scum. most of us here live a good life, have a great life and never expereince trouble here, does not mean it does not happen. i just dont think its as bad as potrayed in the star. it makes it sound like a right cesspit. its not. it is a glorious beautiful estate, with lots of greeenery and woods running the whole way along. there are a few people that need getting rid of, putting them in their own filth to wallow would be a good idea. they spoil the estate. the decent people should not be tarred the same as them. there are more decent folk than there are troublemakers here. thats all. The valley no different from most of areas of sheffield.

oh my god, zebra, everyone so very bad on the valley. agree with above post, you have moved around alot havent you. I am also no friend to scum on the valley and I have no trouble either. you out of order slating the good people of the valley, can not believe that every neighbour where you lived on the valley were bad. now remember neighbours are not just directly next door, they from the street where you live, the back and front of where you live and across the road where you live. generally you slating a good amount of good people there.

I or anyone else has never said that there were no problems at all. there are we are saying they are not as bad as stated in article in The Star. you obviously not reading these posts cos I have not even said there is no crime. there is just not to the extent the article said. and yes I will defend this area COS IT IS NOT THAT BAD. has problems but so do other areas across sheffield. gleadless valley not the worst. my god there are shootings and the like in otherareas. burngreave is like a no go area at night but nevermind cos gleadless worse is it. and the police are not wholly truthful, past history tells us that and if you believe they are then you not only an idiot but short sighted too. Now fair enough that was low of me to say but Im getting a bit p****** at you for saying that I have said there is no crime or problems when I have stated many times that there is just not to the extent being potrayed!!!!!!

was actually kate thornton

defo peters. I buy my husband's boots from there and they are pricey but best boots he ever had. fantastic service. always have my shoes and boots done there. cant fault it.

there are not as many reports as the police say!!! or are they lying. cos th police not exactly truthful are they. and for gods sake if it was a crime hotspot you would imagine big police presence or police cars speeding around here wouldnt yiou, but no there no BIG POLICE PRESENCE AT ALL:rant: and the asylum seeker incident, do you think we did not complain, of course we did, it got us nowhere, NOWHERE. the council ignored this incident when we complained about preferential treatment. they did NOTHING:rant: OH MY GOD. the council have let troublemakers off with so much. the anti social behavour of some families is ignored. the council just say keep diary and believe me that gets you nowhere. the youths causing the gang trouble should have a curfew imposed as was mentioned earlier in this thread, that could help. do you really think the people on here defending our area are just making it all up, or are blind or are just stupid or troublemakers ourselves. we are not we are decent folk living in a nice area which like many many many other areas in sheffield has a few bad points.and further you do not live here you do not have the experience of living here so your comments could be a bit more constructive rather than dismissive

here here shazbat

Zebra, sorry to hear bout your experiences and did read the other thread. is awful that you had a bad time here but can not agree that this is a new Iraq. that comment a bit too much. so only people that defend the valley are criminals or live in better area. no you are wrong. I defend it cos its not that bad. had yoiuths hanging round, had troublesome neighbours,had fires and the like. but IT IS NOT THAT BAD. you make it sound like you fighting for your life while her. my god. winn gardens so much nicer is it. I know people there and its just the same, or do you live in the BETTER area of it. is awful you had to put up with the scum where you were but to say that the only decent neighbour was someone who was also selling up is a downright insult to other decent people who lived near you, were the others ALL scum then. obviously you only had one good one. do think that we should pull together though, but think a the people who do suffer probems and people who know them are scared to do anything. sad I know. thats the problem its not just sorting out the youths on the street or the crime or the drugs. some parents need to be sorted out too. some kids are allowed to hang around till all hours, drinking, causing trouble and whatnot. with thieir parents not knowing where they are. long as out of their hair they dont give a toss.

WHAT!!! you dont even live here. the police DO NOT come out as much as they say. there is not a big police presence in the area. was driving on leighton road the other night and there was no one hanging round, no police, nothing. And you know what, it was just like normal. we are not just saying all this you know. the police do come out to some incidents but mostly because its a racial issue. believe me the police leave it unless its that. phone them up to come and they respond within 10 minutes if its racial otherwise dont hold your breath. sad but true an incident where an asylum seeker was targeted happened a while back and they got moved to a better house in another area within days. police came out at once and council sorted them out with bigger house in 2 days. another resident being targeted had to put up with it for years, police and council did nothing. and to some extent its still going on with that resident. the asylum seeker in question was a nice bloke and didnt deserve to be targeted. he had 3 young kids and a wife and they were a very nice family as most of residents are. but the police arrested and charged the man hassling them but nothing ever happened with that other tenant.

see two examples above of how the council are "doing" something about the problems. they do not care. as much as the scroats have some of the blame the council must take most of the blame. they are rubbish. totally rubbish. they do not give a toss. they put the scroats there, or they just ignore them. sod the decent resident.

OH MY GOD the counciL are responsible as the problem people on the estate. the council do nothing to help. they provide the houses yes but thats where it ends. anti social behaviour is met with "well keep a diary". that does not work. have personal experience in this which I will not divulge as it gets me very worked up. they council did nothing. and it went on for years, still the problem there and they still do nothing. diaries they have had in vast amounts. the council do NOTHING. they wash their hands of it. thats why there are problems on the estate. the council left it to rot. did not focus on up keep of it, if they did perhaps the estate would be as good as it always was, but not they left it. some residents to blame of course and they should take the responsibiltiy but so should the council. we pay our council tax for nothing it seems

understand where you coming from. but have to disagree to some extent. think in some cases that could be right. but not in most cases. I was unemployed for a short time, with a young son to support. and yes I claimed benefit but I also went to college to retrain and got a better job than I had before. one that gave me a great career. I was 30 when I went to college not a young 16 year old. I did what I had to do to support my child. I didnt wallow in self pity cos no job and claimed all benefits i could. I was brought up to support myself and my family and I did just that. I got off my backside and worked hard at college so to get off benefits quicker. I know a woman who has lived on the valley all her life. she comes from a very decent family. she has a son, grown up now, got in to drugs and her son one of the people who causes trouble in the area. he had no support growing up and was brought up in a very unsecure environment. that I would say was because of the drugs his mum was on. drugs, umemployment all adds to the trouble in the area.

am a spotswood girl myself. and the place will always hold special place in myheart. have to agree 99% of the scum have moved into gleadless in last 10 years or so. is only odd native gleadlesser that turned very very bad.

There are no "official boundaries" here. some of us, if you read, are saying that we consider the valley to be the bottom area of the estate. CONSIDER i said. this is what we think of it. this is not an official here saying my god you all wrong, is one resident saying how she see's the estate and has seen it since a baby. is all. now forget that. Gleadles (all of it) is not that bad and we are not blind to the problems and are not being defensive about it. We sticking up for it. we saying it not that bad because it actually isnt' that bad. no worse than most areas. we love gleadless thats why we all getting hot and bothered. we all obviously proud to live there. we all saying the same thing and yes we getting carried away about what bit is what, myself included, and that not getting any of us anywhere. its all gleadless, valley and all. and I love it.

exactly puddinburner. hemsworth and herdings always semt like different areas altogether. but thats just the way we saw it as kids and still do. even gleadless townend semt like miles and miles away. Gleadless Valley was such a lovely estate and although its not as good as it used to be because of the scroats that are spoiling it for others, it is still ok, and not as bad as how the star potrayed it. give it up for Gleadless Valley. a great estate with a few bad points, oh hang on that sounds like every other area in sheffield!!!! so how can the valley be the worst!!

I was trying to make amends by my last post but obviously by the remark "chill your boots" you didnt read it. was going to go on but why bother. I know what the valley is to me and my family as do you and many others blondie blue.

I dont want to get in any arguement with you or anyone else I am just so disheartened by the article in the star. I have had such a good life and living on the valley was a good thing. I am sorry to go on about it but it is very close to my heart. I do not wish to offend you or anyone else. Gleadless is a good area, all of it. and posts like yours and mine and many others will hopefully make people think good of the area. we are all fighting the same battle it seems

:rant:blondie blue. I have lived and breathed the valley since I was 6 months old. I have loved my life on there. I have had the best childhood on there. i consider myself a true blood of the valley for it was a new estate when my parents moved on it. I will always consider myself from THE VALLEY! (look i didnt need to put that in bold) and not just from gleadless. gleadless covers a big area, gleadless valley does not. there is a difference that is important to some of us. it does not take away however the decency of the folk that live on gleadless as a whole. it is swimming with decent folk who love the area as I do. I lived on gaunt road at one point and when a house came empty on the valley I went to council and asked for it before tenants moved out (I knew them well) and since it was before the bidding of properties I got the house. I wanted my son to grow up in the environment that I did, to be safe playing like I was. to have a great happy childhood like I did, and do you know what he did and he still loves THE VALLEY!!!!!!!!!!!:rant:

ok so she didnt wear a seat belt. but does that mean because she didnt wear it then it was obvious she was going to crash? and how do we know she didnt wear one ~ because we were told that. all stinks. she was murdered. I truly believe that and its important that the public should know everything cos the queen supposed to be head of the country, is this how she operates, and the government and MI5 operates!!! beggars belief. always a hint of truth in a conspiracy

Is important to us who love the area. Gleadless VALLEY is that A VALLEY. herdings not in it, neither is john o'gaunt. Gleadless Valley school was in bloody norton for gods sake so how that classed as the valley??????? it overlooked the valley was never in it. but yoiu are right in that there is no community anymore. I remember years ago when people getting married would have their do at the tenants hall on newfield green shops. was always a great night. no worries with it. shame its got bad bits in area now. great shame

dont think he spot on but he is on the right lines. do think that the monachy had her killed. she was seeing a foriegner. and in their eyes they could not have her marrying (whether she was or not) dodi. the royal family would not allow that. she was a free woman but they never let her live her life she had to live it the way THEY wanted. charles as much to blame. the poor woman was murdered in my opinion and the queen, philip and charles know a hell of a lot more than they saying. she should abdicate and charles should never ever be king, specially with that woman he married. diana albeit with her troubled past was a decent woman who loved her kids more than anything and Al Fayed right, she was murdered. time someone came forward and admitted this.

the valley diva is also part of leighton road, spotswood, overend, bankwood, and around those areas, more I know. but abney, never classed that as the valley, too far over. but in essence you right and spot on with your post. it is the few that spoil it. and unfortunately the statistics do centre on that rather than the good aspect of the area. it is such a shame, an area that once won awards for the set out of it, where once the land owner who sold to the council used to ride round on her horse to make sure that trees were planted as agreed when the area was being built. such a sorry shame. the good people of the area should be respected in their decency and not tarnished with the same brush as the scroats that spoil gleadless valley. am ashamed that some of these scroats' parents I know from way back and these parents are to blame for letting their kids run wild. am proud that I or my family never caused trouble an proud that my son never hung round the streets causing mayhem.

oh god im sorry. am tired, cant have read your name right. am off to bed to correct this and will endeavour not to cause you shame again by calling you a girl. but am sorry bout that.

sorry, just on the defensive I guess. nice to hear good comments from someone who doesnt live here. thank you for that.