summer1955 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 The truth of the matter is that most older people don't all want to live together in an aging community. You need a mix of ages to make a vibrant, enjoyable place to live. Unfortunately, from what I hear of a lot of council estates, far from offering to do a bit of gardening or help with shopping in bad weather, many youngsters just seem to want to make older people's lives a misery maybe some dont want to live together in a aging comunity i dont believe you need a mixture of ages to make it an enjoyable place if i didnt have a 15 year old son and was on my own i would prefer to live around older people than young families. a lot of youngster do want to make the older peoples life a misery and not just older people they just want to make it miserable for just anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 maybe some dont want to live together in a aging comunity Ok then, maybe it's just me that doesn't want to live with a lot of other older people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer1955 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 i understand that a lot of people have made their homes nice and their gardens and i agree they dont want to move out into another council property and have to start from scratch again making things look nice i dont think i would want to move out if i had got a nice garden and home that i had spent a lot of money on.if i couldnt cope with it due to ill health or being too old i would move into something smaller that i could manage with. i think more older people would move if the council helped them more in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do-a-bull Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Yes - Council homes are part of the welfare state and everyone wanting one should be treated equally regardless of how many kids they have. There are already far too many kids bred just to collect benefits and this would only encourage those least able to provide for them to have even more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Yes - Council homes are part of the welfare state and everyone wanting one should be treated equally regardless of how many kids they have. There are already far too many kids bred just to collect benefits and this would only encourage those least able to provide for them to have even more! Whilst I agree there are a lot of chldren born to unsuitable and incompetent parents, the benefits issue is perhaps for a separate thread. As I've explained on previous threads, social housing (council and housing association) is let on a basis of need as laid down by government - so a single person won't be given a 3 bedroomed house as they don't need one. As there is more demand than supply of houses, I can't see this changing, although a few years ago because there were 3 bedroomed houses in some areas that families didn't want - a single person or couple without children could get one. In the most desirable areas, the majority of houses have been bought. People who can't get council housing must consider housing association properties, as they are the only social housing being built. The downside for many is that they won't have the 'Right to Buy' from a housing association! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 the council do give you extra points towards being rehoused, if you are downsizing. however, 2-bed bungies are as rare as hen's teeth, across the city. there's shedloads of 1-beds, but they are horrendous small, and not very appealing, and not always in easily-reached areas (the terrain can be steep, and they can be a Looooong way from buses and trams). Also, if you need a carer, to sleep over, or rou need an extra aroom for relatives and friends to stop over, you're scuppered. there is the upside, the convenience of moving into what might be a more manageable property,but the downsides are, as has been mentioned before, moving from a familiar area to an unfamiliar one, which can cause confusion and quite profound distress in someone with dementia, for example. There's the problem of moving away from family, friends, support networks. It's not always a practical solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox20thc Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 i got a letter for my ex husband who haven't been with for 3 years as well so don't know what council are doing lol Ahh is he still down as a tenant somewhere in the deep dark archive of the council offices. Mine is.. Nice that they asked him if he wanted to move, what about me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madowl Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 The thing is, if someone who has lived in a 3-4 bed council house for 15-20 years, had a family, and now finds themselves in a big empty house... what help do they get from the council to move to a smaller house flat etc?? its not just the house, some peope spend a lot of money over the years on their council homes and gardens... what thanks do they get from the counci for looking after their homes and gardens??? To start again £££ some of the smaller houses my mother once looked at were absolutely awful and would have cost her £££££££ why should she pay? She would be giving up a well-maintained well-decorated home and garden for a **it hole. IF i were to move to a smaller house when my kids grow up etc... what could i ask the council for... a smaller home with a garden.... i will always have dogs... i need to fence the new garden make it safe etc... who pays? it cost me £1.600 to fence this garden.... you get nothing back from the council if you look after your home.... just bills if you dont.... and lets face it even some of the work they do is crap... i replaced my bathroom and kitchen after the council put their new one in... awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 the council do give you extra points towards being rehoused, if you are downsizing. however, 2-bed bungies are as rare as hen's teeth, across the city. there's shedloads of 1-beds, but they are horrendous small, and not very appealing, and not always in easily-reached areas (the terrain can be steep, and they can be a Looooong way from buses and trams). Also, if you need a carer, to sleep over, or rou need an extra aroom for relatives and friends to stop over, you're scuppered. I totally agree with you PT. As councils are not permitted in the normal run of things to build any new properties, I think the government should be pushing Housing Associations to build 2 bedroomed bungalows where people want to live, on accessible transport routes. I know in 10 or 20 years I'd probably be glad of one - but I don't fancy the idea of a poky flat! The bulk of council accommodation built for older people was considered fine in its day, but aspirations have changed in the last 30/40 years. Its the same for young families, they don't want to have to live with in-laws or in small flats as we had to do - but the reality is that demand for social housing is outstripping supply as house prices rise ever upwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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