PeteMorris   10 #25 Posted March 15, 2016 Abso-blimmin-loootely!  I sign at least one petition a day  And I'm glad to do it, in the hope it brings change  It takes like 10 seconds man!  What's the biggie?  Ummm..No biggie....But why would I sign something I don't agree with?...Or do you just sign them all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Solomon1 Â Â 10 #26 Posted March 15, 2016 Ummm..No biggie....But why would I sign something I don't agree with?...Or do you just sign them all? Â Who asked you to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #27 Posted March 15, 2016 Who asked you to?  Um...Indirectly 'you'  You said you complete at least one a day..No matter what the content, and said it was just a few seconds!  Maybe it's the way it was written, I don't know.  But in my view blindly filling in everything that drifts along is what's wrong with the system...Wouldn't it make sense to sign stuff you only agree with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Solomon1   10 #28 Posted March 15, 2016 You said you complete at least one a day..No matter what the content  Where have I said this Pete? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #29 Posted March 16, 2016 Not defeatist...just fatigue... Are you advocating everyone just sign anything that comes along, to just keep sheer numbers of petition alive in the hope that something might wriggle through and be acted upon?  Abso-blimmin-loootely!  I sign at least one petition a day  And I'm glad to do it, in the hope it brings change  It takes like 10 seconds man!  What's the biggie?  Here!............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK Â Â 10 #30 Posted March 16, 2016 Unfortunately I have to side with Pete on this one. Forget petitions for a minute - let's go a step further and look mat 'consultations'. As someone who has witnessed many and been both directly and indirectly involved in several, I can state with confidence that they have almost no effect whatsoever. I have witnessed results in excess of '85% against' a motion that is being consulted on, only for it to go ahead anyway. Â It really seems to be just a box-ticking exercise. This is what we want to do. We will ask your opinion. Then we will do it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #31 Posted March 16, 2016 Unfortunately I have to side with Pete on this one. Forget petitions for a minute - let's go a step further and look mat 'consultations'. As someone who has witnessed many and been both directly and indirectly involved in several, I can state with confidence that they have almost no effect whatsoever. I have witnessed results in excess of '85% against' a motion that is being consulted on, only for it to go ahead anyway.  It really seems to be just a box-ticking exercise. This is what we want to do. We will ask your opinion. Then we will do it anyway.  Hahaha...Why unfortunately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK Â Â 10 #32 Posted March 16, 2016 Hahaha...Why unfortunately? Â Sorry Pete. That wasn't meant as 'unfortunately' I have to agree with you. I just meant 'unfortunately' I think you are right. If that makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #33 Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Sorry Pete. That wasn't meant as 'unfortunately' I have to agree with you. I just meant 'unfortunately' I think you are right. If that makes sense.  I'm only jesting...Personally I think the petitions culture has arisen because it's easy to get signatures on line from people who don't give a toss one way or the other.  I remember the days when they had to get 'real' signatures on actual pieces of paper and deliver them to No 10 or wherever. Yes they probably went straight in the bin at the back of No 10, but the symbolism was far more powerful. Edited March 16, 2016 by PeteMorris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Solomon1   10 #34 Posted March 18, 2016 Here!...............  OK  To clarify  Assumption was you meant signing any petitions that I identified with  I don't sign petitions that don't call to me  Now I understand the weirdness about what seemed straightforward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...