Why our boycott campaign against Israel makes sense #BDS

[donkey 10]

you could argue that Israel is actually upholding 'international law' by continuing to administer the territories they gained in 1967 under UNSCR 242. It is amazing how people like the BBC's Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen keep on saying that the settlements are 'illegal', without bothering to inform the audience, just how they are illegal.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html

 

No doubt the UN and the people who drew up the Geneva Convention are all a bunch of antisemites too?

 

It is just a shame that there are so many people out there who need legal rulings to demonstrate to them that driving families and communities into refugee camps so you can take their land is just wrong

Edited August 27, 2014 by donkey

[blake 10]

So they defeated Jordan, Syria and Egypt in wars more than 40 years ago and therefore they are entitled to drive Palestinians from their land in Palestine now?

 

 

perhaps you would care to explain why Arab Israelis privately own more land than Jewish Israelis do? Even though they are less than 25% of the population?

[donkey 10]

How many Israelis live in houses and on land that was once owned by someone living in Gaza?

 

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/unrwa6.html

 

Almost all of them.

 

There are One million one hundred thousand Palestinian refugees in Gaza according to this UN report published on the website 'Jewish Virtual Library' (antisemites perhaps?). It seems likely the number of them who have been displaced from the West Bank would number in the hundreds of thousands.

 

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perhaps you would care to explain why Arab Israelis privately own more land than Jewish Israelis do? Even though they are less than 25% of the population?

 

The vast majority of West Bank Palestinians do not have Israeli citizenship, and therefore are not protected under Israeli law. A deliberate red herring.

 

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And whilst we're at it what do you think islamists are currently doing in just about every country throughout the world?

 

So your argument is two wrongs make a right?

[blake 10]

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/unrwa6.html

 

 

 

The vast majority of West Bank Palestinians do not have Israeli citizenship, and therefore are not protected under Israeli law. A deliberate red herring.

 

 

it is not a red herring at all. It is a simple statement of fact. Arab Israeli citizens privately own more land in Israel, than Jewish Israelis do - despite being a minority.

 

the West Bank is not part of Israel. Unlike the Golan Heights and Jerusalem, which Israel did annex after 1967.

[firemanbob 10]

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/unrwa6.html

 

Almost all of them.

 

Its very likley to be zero, the vast majority of Gazan's were born in Gaza, 99.5% are Palestinian Arab, many of their ancestors are Egyptian.

 

80% of the people living in the West Bank, about 2,100,000 are Palestinian Arabs, many of their ancestors are Jordanian.

 

There are more Palestinian Arabs living in Israel that Jews living in Gaza and the West Bank. Palestinian Arabs make up over 20% of Israels population and Jews make Up 0% of Gazas population. Over 3 times more Arabs live in the state of Israel than Israelis living in the West Bank and Gaza.

 

The Jewish exodus from Arab countries was larger than the Muslims exodus from Israel.

 

Israel was once part of the most powerful Islamic caliphate that ever existed and it grinds on Muslims that it is now a Jewish state and Hamas along with Isis and many other Islamist organization want it to be part of a new Islamic caliphate.

[Halibut 12]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/world/middleeast/un-panel-says-israeli-settlement-policy-violates-law.html

 

No doubt the UN and the people who drew up the Geneva Convention are all a bunch of antisemites too?

 

It is just a shame that there are so many people out there who need legal rulings to demonstrate to them that driving families and communities into refugee camps so you can take their land is just wrong

 

It is this that firemanbob, others of his ilk and of course the Israeli government, fail to recognise (or even acknowledge). There will never be peace until this simple truth is acknowledged.

 

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Its very likley to be zero, the vast majority of Gazan's were born in Gaza, 99.5% are Palestinian Arab, many of their ancestors are Egyptian.

 

80% of the people living in the West Bank, about 2,100,000 are Palestinian Arabs, many of their ancestors are Jordanian.

 

There are more Palestinian Arabs living in Israel that Jews living in Gaza and the West Bank. Palestinian Arabs make up over 20% of Israels population and Jews make Up 0% of Gazas population. Over 3 times more Arabs live in the state of Israel than Israelis living in the West Bank and Gaza.

 

The Jewish exodus from Arab countries was larger than the Muslims exodus from Israel.

 

Israel was once part of the most powerful Islamic caliphate that ever existed and it grinds on Muslims that it is now a Jewish state and Hamas along with Isis and many other Islamist organization want it to be part of a new Islamic caliphate.

 

Firemanbob, do you accept the premise that driving families and communities into refugee camps so you can take their land is just wrong?

[firemanbob 10]

Firemanbob, do you accept the premise that driving families and communities into refugee camps so you can take their land is just wrong?

 

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster, the people of Gaza didn't have country to be forced out of, the overwhelming majority were born in Gaza, they describe themselves as Palestinian Arabs and still live in the region that is historically called Palestine, they could move to Syria and Jordon and still be living in Palestine. Would you describe Israelis as refugees because many are the descendants of people forced off their lands with over a million forced out of Muslim Arab countries.

 

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It is this that firemanbob, others of his ilk and of course the Israeli government, fail to recognise (or even acknowledge). There will never be peace until this simple truth is acknowledged.

 

Do you think it is a good reason to fire rockets at civilians living in Israel, 20% of whom describe themselves as Palestinian Arabs?

Edited August 27, 2014 by firemanbob

[Halibut 12]

A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster, the people of Gaza didn't have country to be forced out of, the overwhelming majority were born in Gaza, they describe themselves as Palestinian Arabs and still live in the region that is historically called Palestine, they could move to Syria and Jordon and still be living in Palestine. Would you describe Israelis as refugees because many are the descendants of people forced off their lands with over a million forced out of Muslim Arab countries.

 

A truly cowardly and pathetic attempt to avoid answering the question.

Have you no moral integrity whatsoever?

[firemanbob 10]

A truly cowardly and pathetic attempt to avoid answering the question.

Have you no moral integrity whatsoever?

 

The interesting thing is that you never (amended to rarely.) answer questions so you must fall within your own above description.

Edited August 27, 2014 by firemanbob

[Halibut 12]

The interesting thing is that you never answer questions so you must fall within your own above description.

 

That simply isn't true bob.

[firemanbob 10]

That simply isn't true bob.

I will amend it to rarely then.

[Halibut 12]

I will amend it to rarely then.

 

I'll just nip off to vomit.