New plans for Don Valley Stadium

[Olive]

DVS was built to be up to world standards for the 1991 games. Woodburn Road isn't up to that standard. The same reason is why they built Ponds Forge rather than use Hillsborough Leisure Centre pool, for example.

 

Ah right, makes some sense then. But now Woodburn Road is OK for what it's needed for?

Why does DVS cost 10 times more to run per year than Woodburn Road?

[RobWilson]

There is only you Rob on this thread that continually keeps defending the Council.

 

The people of the city wants to know their tax revenues are been spent well. Is that too much to ask in our Austerity times?

 

I'm not defending your council. I've got nothing to do with them.

 

I just find it odd that so many people are arguing in favour of keeping DVS when it's costing you all so much money every year, and will continue to do so forever.

 

Surely flattening it (and removing Flame Hill to create even more development land at the same time) and doing something else with the land that will make money is preferable?

 

Do you really need 2 athletics stadiums?

[green]

I'm not defending your council. I've got nothing to do with them.

 

I just find it odd that so many people are arguing in favour of keeping DVS when it's costing you all so much money every year, and will continue to do so forever.

 

Surely flattening it (and removing Flame Hill to create even more development land at the same time) and doing something else with the land that will make money is preferable?

 

Do you really need 2 athletics stadiums?

 

Im not in a position to know whether we should keep one or two, and neither are you. The books, p&ls are not online. Lets see the P&Ls. Will SIV / SCC in our era of transparency do this?

[RobWilson]

Ah right, makes some sense then. But now Woodburn Road is OK for what it's needed for?

 

Sheffield will never again be in a financial position to regularly fill a massive stadium like DVS. Other cities can afford to pay much more to host events.

 

Woodbourn Road will be just fine for the athletes of Sheffield. It will suit the needs of the athletes themselves, rather than trying to be a spectator facility.

 

Why does DVS cost 10 times more to run per year than Woodburn Road?

 

DVS is a 25,000 seater stadium with an expensive roof that imminently needs replacing.

 

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I'm not in a position to know whether we should keep one or two, and neither are you. The books, P&Ls are not online. Lets see the P&Ls. Will SIV/SCC in our era of transparency do this?

 

Outside of London I'm not sure that any UK city could afford to run two publically owned athletics stadiums.

 

Sure, there are several grass tracks in cities like Manchester, but you'd hardly class them as stadia.

 

 

Are you asking me to get SIV and SCC's books for you to read?

Edited March 13, 2013 by RobWilson

[green]

You have missed the point Rob. I wasnt asking them to run 2 sites. I was stating neither you nor I know whether they are viable because we cant see and P&Ls for SIV.

 

Why? If the people of Sheffield are paying for these facilities are the books not online or available?

[CorkerSWFC]

It's like the old day's bringing back Woodburn Road back up to scratch, a great little venue with a lot of memories for a lot of people I would imagine.

Not all is bad from this situation with Don Valley...

[RobWilson]

You have missed the point, Rob. I wasn't asking them to run 2 sites. I was stating neither you nor I know whether they are viable because we can't see P&Ls for SIV.

 

Why, if the people of Sheffield are paying for these facilities, are the books not online or available?

 

I took your point, but as a member of an internet forum (and not even a Sheffield resident) I am not in a position to answer questions on SIV's finances. I suggest you ask them directly, or your elected representatives. My MP is very good at that sort of thing.

 

What I am fairly certain of is that DVS runs at a large loss now that Rotherham United have moved out. It will never make an annual profit unless major money is pumped into it, providing additional facilities, which is an alternative.

 

Woodbourn Road is hardly likely to turn a profit, either. It is likely to be another public service like libraries, parks, skate parks or street cleaning. It is up to you residents of Sheffield to petition your leaders to spend money on the services that you want to support, and those that you don't.

[Olive]

Thanks for the clarifications Rob.

 

So essentially, DVS was needed for the student games, as Woodburn wasn't adequate, but other than that, it's been OTT for other requirements. Too late to question the thinking of the time, sounds like it's been a noose around our necks for many years. Pity.

[green]

Thanks for the clarifications Rob.

 

So essentially, DVS was needed for the student games, as Woodburn wasn't adequate, but other than that, it's been OTT for other requirements. Too late to question the thinking of the time, sounds like it's been a noose around our necks for many years. Pity.

 

They were happy to remortgage it twice as well Olive.... Whilst it was OTT for requirements... If that is the case.

[Brian Hanson]

It'll turn out to be another costly White Elephant. Wait and see.