oasismark   10 #1 Posted January 23, 2006 Been trying for a new job for 2 years now, in a specific area (police forensics), i can get interviews but cannot land the jobs.  Got the last rejection letter today, well ****** off?  :rant:  It's easy to feel like not bothering when you get rejection all the time.  No real question but i just feel like lettin off steam :rant: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fruit&nut   10 #2 Posted January 23, 2006 aw sorry to hear that,do they give any reason of why you didnt get the job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fox20thc   10 #3 Posted January 23, 2006 What are you doing at these interviews? Your application form and CV must be up to par or they wouldn't have invited you for an interview.  You could ask them for feedback on the interview, (most good companies would be happy to do this) and that may give you a better insight into what they are looking for, and why you didn't get the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
oasismark   10 #4 Posted January 23, 2006 No, i'm gonna phone to get some feedback though, but difficult whilst i'm at work.  I'm so fed up with it.  These jobs only come up versy scarsly and i know i'm right for it, but i just can;t make them see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fruit&nut   10 #5 Posted January 23, 2006 yeh ring them,they should give you a reason,why you where not succesful,worth a phone call:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
oasismark   10 #6 Posted January 24, 2006 So i phones up to get some feedback yesterday, and heard nothing.  I called again today to check they had my details correct and they say there really busy people and it could take 2 weeks for them to call me back.    "Employ more people" i wanted to shout down the phone. i.e. ME!!!!!!   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #7 Posted January 27, 2006 it could well be that these jobs tend to favour people all ready in the industry. limited availability jobs within a tight sphere can already have the candidate selected & unfortunately interviews aren't as up front as you think. commiserations on not being selected,it gets you right in the guts when you get the letter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
oasismark   10 #8 Posted January 27, 2006 I know what you mean.  Last job i went for was given to someone that was already in the department that advertised the job!!!  Why not just give it them, it's obvious it was already earmarked for them and they just had to go all through interview stages just to say they were being fair and equal, when really its all a un-necessary farce.  Also this last job was advertised as 3 posts available, when i was at the interview i asked how many jobs are available to clarify and they said 2.  So who got that 3rd place? someone internal i bet ya.  Really bugs me when they enfasize (sp?) equal rights, fair chance etc.  Then give it their mates who already work there.  If there the best person for the job, then fair do's, but i'm sure it's definatly who you know in this world, and not what you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
limpetboy   10 #9 Posted January 27, 2006 I sympathise totally with what you say but perhaps the mindset you're in at the moment (that it's all a waste of time) is affecting your performance in interviews? It's easier said than done but the attitude you need to take with you in an interview is one of optimism/confidence bordering on arrogance.  If you feel negative going in to an interview - even if it's an almost subconcious feeling - then that is going to come across to the interviewers and they will start questioning whether you're actually up to the job. It sounds terribly arrogant but you have to be in the frame of mind that it doesn't matter who else they interview, the job is yours because you're by far and away the best candidate. If you feel confident going in to the interview your answers will flow better, you'll be more relaxed which will put the panel at ease and you're more likely to be successful.  It's not a guaranteed method of success (because after all the other candidates are probably thinking the self same thing) but it's better than feeling like it's a waste of time because that will come across no matter how hard you try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
oasismark   10 #10 Posted January 27, 2006 Oh yes!  At the interview i'm ok.  I do go in full of confidence, i never go into an interview feeling like its a waste of time.  I know the jobs i go for get applications into the 100's, so i know i'm doing well when i get an interview, and that i'm worthy of it.  By the time another job comes around i'll be out of this mood, (getting over it already) and be up and ready for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
wendygs   10 #11 Posted January 29, 2006 You are still entitled to the feedback which by the sounds of things you havent received. If you havent been able to obtain that information from the front line people I suggest you find out who the organ-grinder is to contact them directly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bago   10 #12 Posted February 1, 2006 Forensics is very hard to get into. I think there is only 2 or 3 labs in the whole of UK who would employ forensic scientists. It was one of the options I considered as a chemical analyst graduate way way back.  If you really want to go into forensics as a career, you may want to consider working abroad. US have a wider choice of jobs out there, being so big. I myself changed career and worked in IT.  Btw, you ever considered working in the same dept or the same building or company, and then try for internal promotions too ?  Or alternatively, try to become specialised by studying more in the field of forensics ? I know my last personal tutor was always asked for his scientific knowledge in courts, and sometimes he's given problems to solve. i.e. devising forensic ways to analyse a case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...