Evidence Bombs were planted beneath trains on 7/7

[RobFr 10]

Here is the statistical evidence again, which has yet to be refuted:-

 

Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding

 

London Underground Stations: 274

RELATED: Explosions In London

Probability of one attack by hour (5yr mean): One chance in 9,474,920

Open Hours per Day: 19

Probability of 3 station terror hit (5yr mean): One chance in 850,602,500,906,920,000,000

Open Days a Year: 364

Mean Sample frequent (yrs): 5.

Probability of one attack by hour (10yr mean): One chance in 18,949,840

Mean Sample frequent (yrs): 10.

Probability of 3 station terror hit (10yr mean): One chance in 6,804,820,007,255,360,000,000

Same Time 3

London Underground Stations: 274

Probability of drill on 1 stations per hour: One chance in 817,342

Open Hours per Day: 19

Probability of drill on 3 stations per hour: One chance in 546,023,643,432,766,000

Open Days a Year: 157

Same Time 3

 

PROBABILITY OF DRILL AND TERROR ATTACK COINCIDING BY CHANCE (10yr mean): One chance in 3,715,592,613,265,750,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

 

Estimate of Grains of sand in the whole world: 7,500,000,000,000,000,000

 

In context:

If I go to a beach, or a desert, or under the sea and pick a single grain of sand.

What chance is there of you going to the same part of the world, by chance, and picking up the same grain?

 

You are trillions of times more likely to do this, than the London drill coinciding with this attack at that hour.

 

I wonder why the media aren't investigating the drill??

 

Why are Peter Power, Verint Systems, Richard Jones, Commissioner Ian Blair, the anti-terrorist branch who shot and murdered these innocent people, the Israeli Mossad, Tony Blair and the government itself not under investigation for these horrendous crimes?

[Longcol 610]

Here is the statistical evidence again, which has yet to be refuted:-

 

It hasn't even been explained

[RobFr 10]

"Where is the Evidence?"

[Longcol 610]

"where is the evidence?"

 

Dead bodies at the crimes scenes.

[esme 10]

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[RobFr 10]

Are we really to believe that a "CCTV-rich environment" somehow had this many failures in one day?

 

 

http://77inquests.blogspot.com/2010/10/final-curtain-cctv-rich-to-cctv-fail.html

 

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Sunday, October 17, 2010

The Final Curtain - "CCTV rich" to "CCTV FAIL!"

"In the next image, this is the last sighting of Lindsay, Khan and Tanweer. This was the first CCTV sighting that we had on the unit on this enquiry as they pass through towards the underground station."

 

DI Kindness, to the 7/7 Inquests 13 October 2010

 

Q. [Hugo Keith QC] Can you recall on what day you first spotted a number of men walking through the King's Cross area, in particular through the Thameslink station carrying rucksacks?

A. [Detective Inspector Ewan Kindness] It was on 11 July 2005, sir.

Q. So on the Monday?

A. It was, yes.

Q. Can you recall what it was about the appearance of those men on the CCTV that alerted you to the fact that you might have identified the bombers?

A. My officer, who was engaged in the actual CCTV recovery, was ex-military. He saw the four individuals walking through and they were walking two by two and he felt it was significant. They were carrying large rucksacks and he brought my attention to it. I concurred with him that it was a matter of priority for us.

 

Source: Transcript, 13 October 2010

Morning session - page 6, lines 12-25

 

On Day 4 of the Inquests it became clear that the image above was the last piece of CCTV, according to the Metropolitan Police, that exists of the four accused together anywhere near King's Cross underground station and also the last of Khan, Tanweer or Lindsay.

 

CCTV footage of Hasib Hussain outside King's Cross was shown to the Inquests and released to the press. However, no other footage exists, we are told, that shows the movements of Khan, Tanweer or Lindsay after the King's Cross Thameslink was captured. Why not? Especially when on 11 July 2005, Deputy Chief Constable of the British Transport Police, Andy Trotter, boldly announced, "The Underground network is a CCTV-rich environment".

 

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We are not just talking about the cameras at Thameslink King Cross. We are talking about cameras at Luton station (where are the images of the 4 making their way from outside the station to the platforms? If the camera outside of Luton station is Camera #14, then where are views from any of the other cameras?

 

Why weren't the cameras working on the No. 30 bus?

 

How are we to believe that Khan, Tanweer and Lindsay even got on a tube train if there are no images of them entering any of the tubes that blew up?

 

How did the 4 make it from outside Luton station to the platforms carrying large heavy backpacks during rush hour in less than 3 minutes when it took them 5 minutes during the "dummy run" on 28/6/2005 and others have independently timed the walk at 3 minutes and 35 seconds without stopping to purchase tickets?

 

Where is all of the evidence of the 4 alleged suicide bombers actually entering or inside of their target vehicles/carriages?

 

Where is all of the evidence?

[Halibut 12]

Are we really to believe that a "CCTV-rich environment" somehow had this many failures in one day?

 

Utterly feasible, yes.

[RobFr 10]

What are the odds of all but one of the cameras malfunctioning during a critical 20 minute window from 8:30-8:50am?

 

Please see the following excerpt from the inquest:-

 

http://77inquests.blogspot.com/2010/...cctv-fail.html

 

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The exchange below, between Mr Patterson QC, counsel for the bereaved, and Detective Inspector Ewan Kindness, provides further details. Details which only become apparent to keen listeners in attendance at the Inquests or eagle-eyed readers of the transcripts because, as usual, major show-stoppers in the official "narrative" of 7/7 are regularly and completely ignored by the press.

 

MR PATTERSON: Officer, we then watched the footage -- and I don't think we need to play this, thank you -- of the men entering the railway station. In fact, we don't actually see them buying tickets, do we, in the footage? Were you able to find any footage or CCTV evidence that helps to explain how they got their tickets?

 

A.[DI EWAN KINDNESS] I can't recall the tickets being purchased.

 

Q. Then in terms of the journey south, I think you told us that there were no cameras on board the train, is that right?

 

A. That's correct.

 

Q. When they got to King's Cross, in terms of the available footage, although there were quite a few cameras at King's Cross station, is it right that the only cameras that were recording for the relevant time was a camera in the tunnel?

 

A. There were 76 -- it was a temporary system. King's Cross underground had a temporary system in place. 76 cameras moving in sequence from one second at a time. Fortunately for us, at the appropriate period, between 8.30 and 8.50, it sat for 20 minutes on that one camera and that allowed us, at that period, they came through and we got the first sighting.

 

Q. Is there any footage of the mainline station as opposed to the Thameslink station?

 

A. When you say "mainline", do you mean mainline King's Cross?

 

Q. Yes.

 

A. At some distance away?

 

Q. Yes, is there any footage, CCTV footage -- you referred earlier today to many, many hours of footage that would be relevant to the emergency response.

 

A. I mean, King's Cross mainline footage was that which Hasib Hussain has been identified on, so that's some of it. Of course, it's quite a large estate, but there is definitely King's Cross mainline footage.

 

Q. So if anyone wants to look at footage of the platform or of the escalator, there is footage that has survived of all of those different areas of the mainline station?

 

A. I would -- I mean, we'd have to check the schedule, sir, but from my understanding, that would have been seized and certainly was viewed, so it would be accessible, yes.

 

Q. Was it possible to find CCTV footage showing the area of the station where the witness, Joseph Martoccia,

 

A. Could you just provide me a little bit of information about what he sighted, sir, just to refresh my memory?

 

Q. He was a witness who described seeing the group. He described four to six Asian males with rucksacks, and hugging and euphoric I think –

 

A. Certainly euphoric, but, no, there was nothing, we looked for that, sir, and there was nothing at all.

 

Q. That wasn't covered by cameras?

 

A. No.

Q. In terms of the platforms and the Circle Line heading west and the movements of Mohammed Sidique Khan, presumably you looked but that wasn't covered?

 

A. That's correct.

Q. And heading east and the movements of Shehzad Tanweer, presumably you looked –

 

A. Yes, we did.

 

Q. -- but there was no coverage of him boarding the train?

 

A. At King's Cross?

 

Q. At King's Cross.

 

A. No.

 

Source: Transcripts, 14 October 2010

Afternoon session, p57, Line 19 on

 

From this we learn that "a temporary system" of 76 cameras was installed at King's Cross, but that it malfunctioned for 20 minutes between the crucial period of approximately 8.30am - 8.50am on the 7 July 2005. This "malfunction" left just one of 76 cameras actually recording CCTV footage. Fortunately for the investigating officers, the one camera which remained in operation happened to be the one which was trained on the tunnel between the King's Cross Thameslink station and King's Cross mainline station. This one CCTV camera captured the image shown above.

 

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What REAL evidence is there that the 4 actually got onto the tube trains and the No. 30 bus?

 

Why isn't Verint Systems, an Israeli company who owns and operates the cameras in the underground, being made to explain all of these malfunctions?

 

How many hundreds of millions of pounds have been spent on CCTV cameras that don't even work when it counts?

[RobFr 10]

More on the unbelievable train times according to the latest revision of the government's official conspiracy theory:-

 

from http://terroronthetube.co.uk/inquest-articles/77-inquest-government-offers-new-still-unbelievable-version-of-the-train-times-timeline/

 

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June 28th 2005 ‘Dry Run’ timings

 

Three of the Four came to London ten days earlier on June 28th, and the Inquest was shown CCTV with timestamps of them entering Luton station (See ‘Bridget’, here).

 

They took exactly five minutes from the lower-ground entrance door to go through the station, get their tickets and go onto the platform:

 

08.10.07 Enter Luton station (and buy tickets), 08.14.26 Go through barriers, 08.15.07 Enter platform

 

 

July 7th New ‘Official Narrative’ timings

 

Then the court showed similar CCTV sequence of July 7th with the Four carrying (alleged deadly-bomb) rucksacks. Now they only took one and a half minutes to complete exactly the same movements:

 

07.21.54 Enter Luton, 07.22.43 Go through barriers, 07.23.27 On platform.

 

IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO THE NEW OFFICIAL NARRATIVE, FOR THE FOUR TO HAVE BEEN ON THE BOMBED TUBE TRAINS, THAT THEY CAUGHT THIS EARLIER TRAIN THAT LEFT LUTON AT 7.25 .

 

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More unbelievable nonsense.

Edited March 31, 2011 by RobFr

[Longcol 610]

 

Why isn't Verint Systems, an Israeli company who owns and operates the cameras in the underground, being made to explain all of these malfunctions?

 

How many hundreds of millions of pounds have been spent on CCTV cameras that don't even work when it counts?

 

What are CCTV cameras for Rob? Certainly not for identifying people. On the Tube they're mainly used for making sure places don't get too crowded. Who says the cost hundreds of millions of pounds?

 

Why the emphasis on an Israeli company?

[truthlogic 10]

how can any one spend up to 7 years constantly trying to propagate the official story?

 

i pointed this fact out on the 911 thread and bam it got closed!

 

no realy guys 7 years have you got anything better to do?

[Longcol 610]

 

More unbelievable nonsense.

 

Yup - anything originating from Nick Kollerstrom is unbelievable nonsense.