The union jack/flag - ongoing discussion thread

[MrNM 10]

Racist's... that's the people who fly flags in there garden.

 

If you weren't trolling I'd get myself banned again for swearing!

[MrNM 10]

this opinion is wrong, but it shows that the national flag needs to be reclaimed by everyone, to do that everyone should fly the union flag!

 

It should be illegal for the flag to be used directly as a symbol / logo of any political movement. It's THE flag, not a logo or badge. Forcibly detach it's association from racist organisations.

[millhouses24 10]

I had a nice union flag bag. Had to chuck it as I used it too much and it got dirty but I'm looking for a new one (if anyone has the same one, from Accessorize with flowers across it, PM me and I'll buy it from you for more than cost price ).

 

And I'll probably dig up the St Georges one or a union one for the World Cup to hang out of my window or stick on the wall.

 

I'd also say, broadly speaking, I am more liberal/social libertarian than conservative. Oh, and I don't drive a white van or work as a builder either .

 

For me the flag doesn't represent the BNP/right wing point of view (despite attempts by certain groups to "hijack" symbols of patriotism) but my country, which I am terribly fond of. And terribly proud of as well. And which had key roles in the fight against fascism and against slavery.

[millhouses24 10]

to be fair, for a time, it was a symbol for the far right alien

 

and then ginger spice wore it

 

and beyonce

 

and the rest is history

 

Ginger Spice wore it? Forget national pride, I'm never wearing it again!

[_Chris_ 10]

Agreed I would never fly the union flag and I will defend my right to fly the cross of St George,bugger the Union Jack the England flag is my flag.

The England flag is mine as well, but, it's quite interesting, that when visiting many other countries, they have no problems displaying their national flag, France, Italy, Australia, Spain as a few examples, so why does the same not happen in England ? ?

 

Also, along similar lines, was chatting to a few friends a couple of weeks ago, and one of them said that it's no longer correct, (or politically correct???), to say you're English ? ? Is this true ?

[boyfriday 21]

It should be illegal for the flag to be used directly as a symbol / logo of any political movement. It's THE flag, not a logo or badge. Forcibly detach it's association from racist organisations.

 

...Amen

[Plain Talker 11]

It should be illegal for the flag to be used directly as a symbol / logo of any political movement. It's THE flag, not a logo or badge. Forcibly detach it's association from racist organisations.

 

*faints as she finds herself agreeing with NM on this matter*

[boyfriday 21]

The England flag is mine as well, but, it's quite interesting, that when visiting many other countries, they have no problems displaying their national flag, France, Italy, Australia, Spain as a few examples, so why does the same not happen in England ? ?

Im not sure it is, but if it is its probably because self invented nationalists and football hooligans have used it as a symbol for themselves, and the majority of British people dont wish to be associated with those activities.

Also, along similar lines, was chatting to a few friends a couple of weeks ago, and one of them said that it's no longer correct, (or politically correct???), to say you're English ? ? Is this true ?

 

No, it's not true, where did they hear that?

[_Chris_ 10]

Im not sure it is, but if it is its probably because self invented nationalists and football hooligans have used it as a symbol for themselves, and the majority of British people dont wish to be associated with those activities.

 

It does seem to be, but yep, it could be due to those reasons.

 

 

No, it's not true, where did they hear that?

 

I'll ask when I next see them - just wondering, have others here heard the same thing, that you're not supposed to call yourself English any more ?

[boyfriday 21]

It does seem to be, but yep, it could be due to those reasons.

 

I suspect it is Chris, no one had aproblem with the flag before the National Front and football violence

 

just wondering, have others here heard the same thing, that you're not supposed to call yourself English any more ?

 

..but who's to stop you calling yourself English?

 

In any relevant situation that's how I refer to myself.

[Aim4 10]

Ignore the lefties and fly your flag, all this PC and human rights nonsense will be gone this time next year and we can get back to being normal again when we kick this Marxist lot out.

 

The Tories only pretend to be patriotic and Eurosceptic, but they are not.

[Oddgitt 10]

If Scotland gains its independence like the SNP aim to do, will we have to change the Union Jack?