Should organised religion be banned?

So what would you replace religion with?

The USSR replaced religion with Siberia.

Germany tried to eliminate a religion with death camps.

So what would you replace religion with?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police

Anyone else had enough of talking to jobee? I'm no fan of religion but the guys a fruitloop...

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Originally Posted by jobee

Humans have never stuck to the basics of organised christianity.

It was Christians that destroyed the American indian.

Both world wars were started by christian countries.

Thousands of christians serve in the Uk and US armies volunteering to kill.

viney 40

This would suggest that banning organised Christianity would make no difference to humanity?

If so, why ban it?

jobee

It serves no useful purpose, most people are behaving themselves most of the

time, they dont need to go to church every week to listen to a load of

ancient nonsense. All religions die, let us help the murderous lying

Christianity on its way. The new pope is causing trouble for

homosexual/lesbian people. I notice he hasn't apologized for the Dublin mess.

I dont want him visiting this country spreading his fascist poison.

The USSR replaced religion with Siberia.

Germany tried to eliminate a religion with death camps.

 

'Organized' religion I mean, I DONT wish to interfere in peoples home life.

Public praying is stupid..

The USSR replaced religion with Siberia.

Germany tried to eliminate a religion with death camps.

That isn't true.

Nazi Germany (which is what I assume you're talking about) was anything but atheistic and tried to eliminate certain ethnic groups with death camps not religion.

The Nazis came to power in part by signing a deal with the Catholic Church, they had a national church and had 'God mit us' stamped on their belt buckles. Contrary to the lie spread by many theists Hitler was not an atheist but very much a theist.

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews and Socialists, I am fighting for the Lord's work."

Adolph Hitler 1936 in a speech in the Reichstag. Source

In contrast with the 3rd Reich the USSR was very much anti-religious especially early on though this line was softened later on with the Orthodox Church playing a significant role helping motivate the populace in WWII.

Thats why I want it banned, its so divisive.

 

'Organized' religion I mean, I DONT wish to interfere in peoples home life.

 

Public praying is stupid..

This is yet another post of yours which makes no sense as a response to the quoted text it is supposed to be a response to.

If skippy_54 claims are true (and you seem to accept them as such) and both the Nazis and Soviets had tried to eradicate religion how would that demonstrate that religion is divisive?

This is yet another post of yours which makes no sense as a response to the quoted text it is supposed to be a response to.

 

If skippy_54 claims are true (and you seem to accept them as such) and both the Nazis and Soviets had tried to eradicate religion how would that demonstrate that religion is divisive?

 

So your saying religion was never divisive?

So your saying religion was never divisive?

Of course not, I'm saying that you declaring:

"Thats why I want it banned, its so divisive."

in response to the claim that religion was repressed by the Nazis and Soviets makes no sense. As something being repressed by two particularly malignant ideologies that blighted the last century in no way demonstrates it to be divisive.

Of course not, I'm saying that you declaring:

 

"Thats why I want it banned, its so divisive."

 

in response to the claim that religion was repressed by the Nazis and Soviets makes no sense. As something being repressed by two particularly malignant ideologies that blighted the last century in no way demonstrates it to be divisive.

And this

Background to the Thirty Years War

Under the Peace of Augsburg in 1555 Lutheranism had been given official recognition in the Holy Roman Empire. Lands of the Roman church which had previously been taken by secular powers were retained by them. German rulers could also impose their religion on their subjects.

However, the Peace did not provide a permanent framework for religious settlement in Germany. A number of rulers became Calvinists and thus at least arguably outside the pale of the Peace. Protestants continued to take over Catholic properties, particularly in North Germany. The Catholics commanded a majority in most of the organs of government; the Protestants came to distrust these bodies and the machinery of government began to break down.

The Catholics and Protestants formed armed alliances to preserve their rights: the Catholic League under Maximilian I of Bavaria and the Protestant Union under Frederick V of the Palatinate.

Meanwhile, in Bohemia, Moravia and Austria dissension between the Habsburgs had enabled the local elites to extort religious freedom from their rulers. The Habsburgs gradually began to chip away at these concessions.

http://www.pipeline.com/~cwa/TYWHome.htm

And this

 

<snip completely irrelevant cut and past>.

Yes and? How is this cut and paste supposed to render:

"Thats why I want it [religion] banned, its so divisive."

A rational response to the claim that your policy is much like that followed by the Nazis* and Soviets?

*not that the Nazis were particularly opposed to religion but you accepted the claim at face value.