Kthebean   10 #49 Posted November 17, 2005 I am Miss, until I get married, then I'm going to be Mrs.  My feminism rests on more than my name, which is frankly in my opinion quite irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #50 Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by willman the term ms was introduced in the 50's so that letters/publications could be signed without the need for christian names or initials that were used to follow Miss or Mrs. it quite rightly allowed for equality for both genders, prior to the early 50's MIss,Mrs,Master or Mister were the norm.  It came in even before that, in the 19th century, when women were fighting for the vote and equal rights.  Married women were discriminated against, and were less likely to be taken on by an employer (think about even 40/50 yrs ago, when women teachers married: it was only just coming in that they could continue teachjng)  The term Ms was adopted by women workers in order to keep their marital status private.  PT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #51 Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Plain Talker It came in even before that, in the 19th century, when women were fighting for the vote and equal rights.  Married women were discriminated against, and were less likely to be taken on by an employer (think about even 40/50 yrs ago, when women teachers married: it was only just coming in that they could continue teachjng)  The term Ms was adopted by women workers in order to keep their marital status private.  PT  you could well be right, however the first published acceptance of the use of the phrase in public was 1951, when a textbook showing draft letters used Ms as a signature for female writers- i do believe Emily Pankhurst was Miss right up to the end.  it is however an underused term & is probably more appropriate than some terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spiderman   10 #52 Posted November 17, 2005 This thread is sexist!  I would like to put it on record that I am none of the above, but in fact a Mr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Clare85 Â Â 11 #53 Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by spiderman This thread is sexist! Â I would like to put it on record that I am none of the above, but in fact a Mr! Â Apologies, Spiderman are you a Mr, Master, Sir, Lord, Private, Colonel, Duke, Father..................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HappyHoosier   10 #54 Posted November 17, 2005 My feminism rests on more than my name, which is frankly in my opinion quite irrelevant.  My feminism isn't limited to my title.  If it's irrelevant, then why does society continue to distinguish married women from single women? My marital status should be irrelevant to everyone, which is why I demand Ms. of those who insist on using titles.  And what's sexist about this topic, Spiderman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bouncy   10 #55 Posted November 17, 2005 I don't mind being a Mrs but after 19 years I still prefer to give people my first name. I don't feel as old that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spiderman   10 #56 Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Clare85 Apologies, Spiderman are you a Mr, Master, Sir, Lord, Private, Colonel, Duke, Father.....................  Like I said I am a plain old Mr, but you can call me sir! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Clare85 Â Â 11 #57 Posted November 17, 2005 Well actually it is sexist isn't it really (THE WHOLE TOPIC)....but not in the way that I have just directed the question to women and not men! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spiderman   10 #58 Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by HappyHoosier My feminism isn't limited to my title.  If it's irrelevant, then why does society continue to distinguish married women from single women? My marital status should be irrelevant to everyone, which is why I demand Ms. of those who insist on using titles.  And what's sexist about this topic, Spiderman?  Because us mesters weren't included or invited into the conversation! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Clare85 Â Â 11 #59 Posted November 17, 2005 I formally invite all gentleman to have their say in this conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DragonofAna   10 #60 Posted November 17, 2005 Okay - as the floor has been opened - I have to say I do not like it when people call me mrs. Miss isn't much better, and Ms just takes the michael.  How about just calling you by your name? Or is that too personal?  I dunno - hows anyone supposed to win at this titles lark?  Most people don't call me Mr. They have a pet name for me --- T**t. Have no idea why.  Does it really matter, when it all boils down to it, what a person gives you as a title? Its a two second thing.  Dragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...