Wardsbitter

Keep the Home Fires Burning -This Is the Big Push.

Alabama,

Thanks by the way !

WB

Alabama,

Suspect not.

WB

Alabama,

Thanks for this -religion doesnt come in to it. Some brave Irish lads from the Munsters, Leinsters and Dublin Fusiers in Walkley Cemetery who are not forgotten by this Englishman. I suspected Lambert was unmarried. Apparently he suffered a bad head wound in India and there is a plaque to him out there. One thing -whether Shamrock or not- he would appreciate something green. Anyone know his birth date/date of death?

Cheers Guys,

VC Holders Association aren't really in a position to assist in a tidy up- the grave will always be vunerable [like the others] but this feller deserves some recognition. Above all we don't want to fall out about this issue.

WB

Interesting point- I have no idea what religon George Lambert was - be interesting to find out what his church was. A brave man whatever and he deserves better than to lie in a neglected spot like Wardsend- like all the others there.

Cheers Lazarus,

Still with us on both counts-that's good news.

WB

This gallant Irishman is not forgotten by Sheffielders. Arrangements are in hand for the shamrock to be paced on his grave, Anyone interested- I know there are- watch this space. His VC is in the York and Lancs Museum in Rotherham.

In some countries and cultures this unfortunate man would have been shot dead on the spot and no questions asked. The days of keeping the Queens Peace by the use of a short length of Burmese teak, consensus and authority are long gone. In these situations things often do not go to plan- I think the police officers and their dog are worthy of our acknowledgement. Why does the Star use the phrase' cops' for goodness sake?

The Markets should go. I don't neccessarily go for the tourism angle myself because Sheffield never markets its heritage effectively. The castle remains are where Sheffield grew up. Simple as that.

I hope the folk who indicated their interest on the opening of the castle remains thread are e-mailing english heritage accordingly.

All,

Apologies for my rather 'ratty' last comment- since following this up I have been made aware of frustrations about this issue. It appears that no one is aware who is responsible for Wardsend- the Council look like taking it over. I don't think in these circumstances there is any possiblity of an exhumation and where would you put Lambert's remains? Having been up to Wardsend -its always going to be a vunerable site. It appears that his headstone was repaired/relaid fairly recently.

Regards

WB

Guys,

Please -people are trying to something about this and have been for years- what good is all this banter?

WB

anyone had any experiences ?

I tend to think that the redevelopment of the tarnished and scruffy Markets area is as pressing as both Sevenstone and the Moor. Point is Sheffield has been cavalier towards the retention of its old buildings and that is a widely held view. It never had the city scape of the great Midland and Northern cities for various historical reasons. One thing is sure- planners and councillors and architects who have the power to mould our city scapes are often the worse culprits. Look how they ruined the character of the Old Queens Head for instance. The state of local politics certainly doesn't help.

Dear All,

Please see post on this subject on North West Sheffield News On Line. I understand

the VC Holders association is being contacted to clean the grave up and the Council being informed about this incident.

Wards Bitter

ie Ron Springett and Alan Hodgkinson- lets not talk about Bonetti

Dear All,

The VC association-or something like it - spruce up VC winners graves.

Wards Bitter

This thread is surely reflecting the Forum at its best. LadyStar- agree with you in many respects-especially about Nottingham. One of the biggest urban myths about Sheffield is the scale of the damage done to central Sheffield by the Luftwaffe.Its arguable that more damage was wrought by the Council post war. Some of the thoughts on Sheffield's historic buildings expressed by Councillors and presumably planners that I have come across have left me in a cold sweat

Ivan Lilley,

Thanks for raising your concerns about Lambert VC. I know folk who have been fighting the cause of Wardsend Cemetery for decades. I will see this gets back to them and raise this in other directions. I believe the gallant Lambert was a single man.

Wards Bitter.

Not to mention Castle House. Hope to hear some views from Skyscraper City.

Ps Sportsman stopping surely ?

accuse me of sitting on the fence on this one- but I feel that the Bethel Sunday School should be kept and the 'pepperpot' also. That being said- there is a definate need for retail development but I don't find Sevenstone- as it stands- particularly interesting.

The Grosvenor contains asbestos based material, I understand. City Lofts looks ok from Howard Street but has had a detrimental effect on the town hall when viewed from Leopold Street. The new fire station is quite a nice looking building. One poster mentions the HHB- however their published stance occasionally indicates a desire that Sheffield should have stayed as it was in the nineteen seventies. Frankly the damage has been done in central Sheffield [and the suburbs] years ago. Let's think about the conservation challenges that face us apart from Sevenstone[ as it stands] ie the threat to our interesting pubs, the task facing the Manor Lodge site and- and - the desperate need to do the right thing by the Markets area and the Castle remains. Also the threats in the suburbs, especially the less fashionable ones. Conservation issues have been heightened by Park Hill but lets keep politics and politicians out of them because conservation isn't a vote winner.

Gate is no loss- what about the other three up at Wadsley Bridge?

Hare and Hounds in Nursery Street- not the Wicker- is definately coming down.

Rileyjay,

I trust you will be ok- as a fellow poster says- any worries check it out with the NHS.

Forgive my curiousity but why did you have it done? Does it feel odd or uncomfortable?

Best Wishes ,

WB