Glamrocker   10 #493 Posted March 21, 2012 I too am a responsible air rifle owner and also own and have used a number of air pistols over the years. Dungbeetle was spot on. I have never heard of anyone dying having been shot with a legal air pistol. in fact there you are:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7090184.stm Just googled and this was the first one on the list ,theres more but this one example will suffice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andygardener   10 #494 Posted March 21, 2012 in fact there you are:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7090184.stm Just googled and this was the first one on the list ,theres more but this one example will suffice  That's an air rifle, not a pistol. You could kill a person with a 12ft/lb air rifle at reasonably close range and hitting a handfull of spots, you can't with a legal air pistol, there is not enough power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bruce_Shark   10 #495 Posted March 21, 2012 Maybe we should consider licences for bottled water...  ...do you know how many people drown each year!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #496 Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) in fact there you are:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7090184.stm Just googled and this was the first one on the list ,theres more but this one example will suffice  As thorough as ever with your research, that was an air RIFLE, not a pistol. Another example of what I said in my earlier post. Edited March 21, 2012 by RootsBooster missed a word out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ez8004 Â Â 10 #497 Posted April 17, 2012 Well, the Scottish politicians are already steps ahead of you all. They have been considering legislation to have all air weapons banned! This is actually quite funny as the national rifle coach for the GB shooting team is based in Scotland, so it would be interesting if he needs to travel south of the border just to train lol. Â The people most likely to be hurt from more stringent legislation are people like myself who have legitimate sporting interests which are the majority. For example, I am a 10m air rifle shooter which shoots at a club at county and national levels. The reason I decided to specialise in air rifle shooting is the fact that it is much cheaper than .22 smallbore shooting and easier to get into because of there being much less red tape. If you bring the legislation requirements for air weapons to be equivalent to that of smallbore weapons, then you are actually going "increase" the number of smallbore rifles out there because people will just migrate to that discipline instead if there is just as much hassle to get into either sport. Â It just goes to show the people who have least understanding of the subject, shout the loudest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andygardener   10 #498 Posted April 17, 2012 Well, the Scottish politicians are already steps ahead of you all. They have been considering legislation to have all air weapons banned! This is actually quite funny as the national rifle coach for the GB shooting team is based in Scotland, so it would be interesting if he needs to travel south of the border just to train lol. The people most likely to be hurt from more stringent legislation are people like myself who have legitimate sporting interests which are the majority. For example, I am a 10m air rifle shooter which shoots at a club at county and national levels. The reason I decided to specialise in air rifle shooting is the fact that it is much cheaper than .22 smallbore shooting and easier to get into because of there being much less red tape. If you bring the legislation requirements for air weapons to be equivalent to that of smallbore weapons, then you are actually going "increase" the number of smallbore rifles out there because people will just migrate to that discipline instead if there is just as much hassle to get into either sport.  It just goes to show the people who have least understanding of the subject, shout the loudest.  Agreed. There is a lot of whining by people who have no idea about shooting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
buck   11 #499 Posted April 17, 2012 im sorry but in my view in todays (almost a none gun) society theres no need for guns at all. apart from the obvious military, police etc (even including trained in the safe use of kids)I taught my three boys how to use air rifles and pistols from early teenage. I'm a veteran myself, and the rules were firm. No pumped air in the gun,or CO2 cartridge if the gun was not in use. Shoot only at paper targets or plastic bottles in our own yard, and only when I was at home. One of them, Dave, served in Iraq and transitioned to an M-16 easily. You have to be responsible for the acts of your children at all times. It doesn't need a bloody government to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tradescanthia   10 #500 Posted April 17, 2012 I too am a responsible air rifle owner and also own and have used a number of air pistols over the years. Dungbeetle was spot on. I have never heard of anyone dying having been shot with a legal air pistol.  Are you one of the 'pretend terrorists', creeping around in the woods, dressed in cammo, leaves and twigs stuck in netting ?? :hihi:  I see that sort creeping around in country parks ILLEGALLY shooting wildlife. I have some usefull equipment, a camera with a long lense and I photograph the shooters. I even photograph their vehicles [often parked close by] Its usefull for evidence. The shooters are worse than the vermin they claim to rid us of.  I find the shooters hilairious, perhaps every license applicant should be mentally examined................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_Mommy   10 #501 Posted April 18, 2012 That's an air rifle, not a pistol. You could kill a person with a 12ft/lb air rifle at reasonably close range and hitting a handfull of spots, you can't with a legal air pistol, there is not enough power.  I am quite sure that this ----> http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/832_1_21793.html firing at 460fps would be more than capable of killing someone when fired at close range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Conrod   10 #502 Posted April 18, 2012 Are you another 'cammo nutter' ?? I photograph AND protect wildlife. Sounds like you are one who should be mentally examined............. Which is the vermin ?? The squirrell or the airgunner ??.............no contest.. I think it's pretty much accepted fact that squirrels are vermin, to argue otherwise would be puerile. If you see people shooting illegally on ground they do not have permission to shoot on, then your little crusade is not such a bad thing, as those people should eb arrested and should be prosecuted for armed trespass among other offences. They bring the rest of the shooting community - repsonsible sportsmen and hunters - into disrepute.  Generally though, when done legally, shooting's a great hobby. And squirrel tastes wnderful - I can let you have a cracking recipe for satay sauce to go with grilled squirrel legs if you're interested, still have a few dozen in the freezer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Conrod   10 #503 Posted April 18, 2012 I am quite sure that this ----> http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/832_1_21793.html firing at 460fps would be more than capable of killing someone when fired at close range.Then clearly you do not understand the relevance of that muzzle velocity, the kinetic energy it translates to and the sort of damage it can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_Mommy   10 #504 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Then clearly you do not understand the relevance of that muzzle velocity, the kinetic energy it translates to and the sort of damage it can do.  Care to enlighten me then Conrod ? Here is a review of the pistol:  I GOT THIS GUN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I HAVE USED MANY AIR GUNS BEFORE I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE CROSSMEN 22 CAL 2240 CO2 POWERED HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST POWERFULL ONES OUT THERE AND IS PERSONALY ONE OF MY FAVORITES I LOVE THIS GUN BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFERENT MODS AVALABLE TO U AND IT REALY PACKS A PUNCH AT 460 FPS WICH MAAY NOT SOUND LIKE MUCH BUT REMEMBER THAT IT IS IN 22 CALIBER AND IS ONE OF THE ONLY AIR PISTOLS AVAILABLE FOR HUNTING I HAVE HAD SUCCES WEN HUNTING RABBITS ,SQUIRLES,GOLFERS,WEASELS,CROWS...  Proof is in the reading.... Edited April 18, 2012 by The_Mommy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...