It's not smoking, and it's in The Lounge Bar

[VaporDave 10]

Hi VaporDave,

Are you Sheffield based. Really interested in getting one of these things especially as they are only about twenty quid. I never use cards on the internet, is there somewhere I can buy one from for cash?

 

Good luck with this and ignore all the druggie/bong comments. It is alittle victory for smokers when there are ways to enjoy tobacco in public that bends this horrible dictatorial law.

 

It is one in the eye for all those smug non-smokers who probably never went into a pub anyway and now enjoy everyone being as miserable as they are (take note Heyesey).

 

Cannot wait to see it in a few local pubs. Bring on the bong!

 

All the best I hope you make some money from your product.

 

Thanks for the imput Blusky, very welcome.

If you can make it down to the Lounge tomorrow night I'll have vaporisers for sale there, please mention your name.

[Jeerumba 10]

All sounds a bit complicated to me. I'm off for a fag!

[VaporDave 10]

Fair play to you and I guess it may have come over a little sharp.

 

Just to expand a little on what was going through my mind, the whole scene with vapourisers and bongs and the like really seems to have itself rooted in drug culture. You can explain about hookahs and ancient Persian traditions as much as you like - the average person sees it as a smack-head accessory.

 

Whilst I couldn't care less what people do in their own homes is it the sort of thing that we want to be confronted with in a public bar?

 

The laws been changed, people will have to get used to it. Having a load of percieved drug paraphernalia in a bar isn't what I want to experience.

 

Nice save.

I'm not sure the busier city centre pub would be suitable for this product yet, but in the home, local pubs, bingo halls, casinos, working mens clubs, private clubs, possibly nightclubs and anywhere people socialise in a sitting down environment, it is ideal

 

You can't say to an addict 'Just stop', they can't or won't. The smoking habit is now being driven into the home where we don't have the benefit of industry standard air conditioning to expell the dangerous sidestream smoke from the room.

 

Countless children and pets are now being exposed to the dangers of passive smoking, more now that ever.

 

I feel with a little education people will accept this alternative.

Hopefully this device will slowly help all tobacco users to give up smoking altogether, surely that can only be a good thing.

[VaporDave 10]

The question is, would this be legal to use in a pub, bearing in mind the smoking ban ?

 

If so, can you prove it ?

 

Yes it's legal.

There is no combustion, no embers, no smoke, just vapor.

[X666 FJP 10]

Cripes, it sounds like a night for smackheads. Will you allow injecting as well?

 

 

Ha ha! Strong words for a mod. This thread's class.

[VaporDave 10]

So you admit that it is smoking then. I quote from your website:

 

Welcome to Vaporstar

 

Announcing the launch of the latest vaporisation tool that will change the way you smoke

 

Smoking, of any kind, is banned in enclosed public spaces. This includes hookah aswell as all other kinds of smoking. I really don't see how bongs can be excluded. You can put a party frock on it by giving it a fancy name - but that's essentially what it is - a bong.

 

Yes, CHANGE the way you smoke, I thought that was fairly clear.

It's not smoking I'm promoting, it's vaporisation.

My device changes any small glass pipe(bong) into a vaporiser.

It's not just a bong.

[medusa 16]

Hi

The tobacco is vaporised, not smoked and if anything is exhaled it dissipates quickly.

 

Dissipates quickly into where? I thought that the whole point of the smoking ban was that those who didn't wish to inhale nicotine and other tobacco byproducts didn't have to- in an enclosed space the vapour must change the atmosphere of the room in which it is used.

[VaporDave 10]

Dissipates quickly into where? I thought that the whole point of the smoking ban was that those who didn't wish to inhale nicotine and other tobacco byproducts didn't have to- in an enclosed space the vapour must change the atmosphere of the room in which it is used.

 

 

Hi

When smoke is formed it carries everything apart from the ashes left in the ash tray or what is stuck inside the lungs into the atmosphere. That's a lot of particles that hang in the air, and always at the same height.

With vaporisation the amount of nicotine taken in to the lungs is very small, and what is exhaled is even less if any at all.

When vapors are released into the air, they disperse upwards much like clouds or steam from a kettle, they don't hang in the air.

What is important is that the radioactive particles trapped within the tobacco, remain in the tobacco after vaporisation.

This is the real danger of smoking, passive or otherwise; is the inhalation of heavy metals that have been transferred from the fertilizers used in high intensity farming, to the plant while growing.

It's only when the plant is broken down by burning it, that the radioactive particles are released into the smoke and tar that is inhaled.

These particles build up in the lungs and eventually become large enough to cause ill effect.

Hope that helps.

[medusa 16]

I'm sorry, but until you can produce independent research about the air quality before and after someone in a room using one of these contraptions, then I will continue to be deeply skeptical about what you say on this matter. There must be a portion of what is released from the tobacco that is not absorbed into the smokers' lungs and exhaled, and that must remain in the air- reduced or not, that is still something that I choose as a non-smoker not to inhale.

[clipboard 10]

Brilliant.. reminds me of Canablis the technique of smoking canabis through a dog. That caught on in Japan, Claire Raynor wasnt happy but still don't knock it

 

now that i'd buy!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQq7i1fBRp0

 

brass eye kicks ass.

[superchrome 10]

hey... do you get the same buzz as a cigarete, i dont smoke for the nicotine i smoke for the buzz??,but correct me if i'm wrong.

and joe smack heads dont use pipes mate.

[VaporDave 10]

I'm sorry, but until you can produce independent research about the air quality before and after someone in a room using one of these contraptions, then I will continue to be deeply skeptical about what you say on this matter. There must be a portion of what is released from the tobacco that is not absorbed into the smokers' lungs and exhaled, and that must remain in the air- reduced or not, that is still something that I choose as a non-smoker not to inhale.

 

That's okay, if people don't stand for what they believe it would be a very sad world.

However, as I say the vapor rises and for you to inhale anything passively you would have to be uncomfortably close to the exhalee.