Sheffield Community Health shamed on hygiene

[Betty1]

Yes, but No MRSA,Betty.

 

Yes, but TB, polio,Pattricia

[BlackVelvet]

And my Mum took MRSA INTO hospital despite having not been in hospital before ! Such sweeping comments inferring that everyone infected with MRSA caught the infection whilst in hospital is alarmist and incorrect.

 

thankyou!, glad im not the only one to make that observation (as someone who HAS swabbed patients on admission, where criteria for it do exist)

 

Yes, we have MRSA now unfortunatley. Its a mutation of a bacterium found on EVERY persons skin: Staphylococcus Aureus. The primary reason it developed: PATIENT NON COMPLIANCE WITH ANTIBIOTIC MEDICATION. so while you are blaming the hospitals for it all, just consider if YOU, personally, have ALWAYS completed evey course of antibiotics you were ever prescribed? as if not, you are playing your part in the development of MRSA strains

[BlackVelvet]

lets not forget 'the consumption'

[Betty1]

May I respectfully request that the moderator change the title of this thread to ' Sheffield Community Health shamed on hygiene ' since the report in question refers to the Primary Care Trust and is nothing to do with Sheffield Hospitals. Thank you.

 

You mods dozing tonight ?

[angle20]

May I respectfully request that the moderator change the title of this thread to ' Sheffield Community Health shamed on hygiene ' since the report in question refers to the Primary Care Trust and is nothing to do with Sheffield Hospitals. Thank you.

 

It seems you may be right, Betty1! I plead in my defence that it was a discussion on Radio 2 this lunchtime - where the discussion was about hospitals - that set me on to this. Sheffield's hospitals - including the Northern General and the Hallamshire - come under the "Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust" I gather - a separate body. The Primary Care Trust deals with the non-hospital side of things. Was the Teaching Hospitals Trust included in this survey and did it do OK?

 

Apologies for the misunderstanding but we have nevertheless aired some concerns around the important subject of hospital infections.

[Alastair]

I hate to put a dampener on things, but it's actually the Primary Care Trust that failed to reach the hygiene standards, not the hospitals.

 

Can you explain what that actually means please? Are the hospitals in fact hygienic?

[angle20]

A contribution on BBC's 'Have your say':

 

Having nursed for over 20 years.

1. Bed occupancy must be reduced. You cant get a patient out at 9am and admit another at 9.10 and expect clean and hygienic conditions.

2. Reduce visiting back to the old days. Max of 2 visitors, 2 hours only per day. No children under 12 except in exceptional circumstances.

3. Bring back the ward cleaner who belongs to the ward and is a total part of the team.making sure that the ward sister is in charge of the cleaning staff with the power to hire and fire.

 

[Ned Ludd]

I think this sums up the situation, a quote made in response to the latest figures on deaths resulting fron C. Difficile infections:

Head of health at Unison, Karen Jennings, said: "These shocking figures show that MRSA and C difficile have a deadly grip on our NHS. Dirt is not cheap.

 

"We need to wage war on these superbugs and cleaning and cleaners should be on the front line as an integral part of the infection control team.

 

"No one wants to be treated in a dirty hospital but sadly the culture of cleaning was sold off at the same time as compulsory competitive tendering was brought in.

 

"It's time for hospitals to set safe minimum staffing levels for their cleaning services - patients and staff deserve nothing less."

[BlackVelvet]

I think this sums up the situation, a quote made in response to the latest figures on deaths resulting fron C. Difficile infections:

Head of health at Unison, Karen Jennings, said: "These shocking figures show that MRSA and C difficile have a deadly grip on our NHS. Dirt is not cheap.

 

"We need to wage war on these superbugs and cleaning and cleaners should be on the front line as an integral part of the infection control team.

 

"No one wants to be treated in a dirty hospital but sadly the culture of cleaning was sold off at the same time as compulsory competitive tendering was brought in.

 

"It's time for hospitals to set safe minimum staffing levels for their cleaning services - patients and staff deserve nothing less."

 

a great statement, but no matter how you try to dress it up; too much demand and not enough funding are never going to achieve that statements aims.

[BlackVelvet]

Can you explain what that actually means please? Are the hospitals in fact hygienic?

 

i think the point this poster was making is that the original quoted report actually covers Primary care trusts, not the NHS trusts (hospitals).

Are The hospitals hygienic??? I would suggest, if you put a lot of sick people together in a small space under one roof, do you think that is Hygienic, or easy to keep hygienic?. Short answer is, its never going to be achieved until ALL staff, ALL patients and ALL visitors play 100% by the rules. Staff should be washing their hands, but then again, spend 30mins in the patients toilets and see how many patients actually do (or bother to pull the flush for that matter) and all visitors should also be cleaning their hands, not sitting on the patients bed or chair etc, again, you only have to watch for a while to see the truth.

 

Primary care trusts: Covers GP pactices, other community practices, Community staff (nurses, midwives etc) and funds certain other services in some areas. If these are not meeting the standard, they can only be held accountable for so much of the problem here. Using community nurses as an example; If they are dirty, chances are that is YOUR fault. they can come to work in a clean uniform and go on to visit houses which maybe are not quite as clean. It was already determined from a previous thread, that most smokers here would smoke while communtiy NHS staff were in the house.....So you can hardly expect them to be spotless can you? Be afraid, be very afraid, because if in fact they are not meeting hygiene standards, they are bringing that directly to your house.