DIVA Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 there is a defined difference between the PATIENTS using NGH, and the other two mentioned Tell that to the thousands of people who get transferred regularly from one to the other. The overwhelming majority you speak to say the hygiene standards are unacceptable in the Hallamshire, but that's nothing compared to the state of hygiene at the NGH. When I went to see a friend recently, he asked me if I had used the handwash. I replied the affirmative. He said it was the first time that he had smelled it on anyone coming near to his bed, in the ten days he had been in.
scoop Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 As they didn't gorm me I had plenty of time to hear that it was plainly a social interaction Do you have a job? Do you never "socially interact" at work. Hospital workers are humans you know, not robots.
DIVA Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 On the other side of the argument, a nurse from West Yorkshire on the radio earlier today argued that the public also need to play their part in combating infection. She described seeing a crowd of people waiting for the start of visiting time who then all steamed past the hand rubbing procedure. Maybe a member of staff needs to stand over visitors to enforce this? Another issue is whether staff should be able to travel to/from work in their uniforms. More generally, the rise in infections is likely to be a negative by-product of the higher turnover of patients arising from the laudable drive to get down waiting times. Recently, at the Hallamshire, I witnessed a lovely sight A female patient in her long, flowing, dressing gown sprawled all over the top of the bin outside the main doors of the Hallamshire. Her dressing gown was all over the bin, she was even leaning on it, and the bin was absolutely filthy and looked like it had not been cleaned since it was put there - chewing gum all over it and heaven knows what else. Surely, as a visitor to the hospital, I'm not the only person to see this happen, people who work there must see that sort of thing everday - why don't they do something? - have smaller ash bins on the wall that people can't sprawl over perhaps? - clean the bin perhaps? Some people need protecting from themselves, but especially when they're putting others at risk as well.
BlackVelvet Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 to combat MSRA, they should swab and test EVERYONE admitted to hospital. People may be surprised at the results as current research suggests 1 in 3 of the population are ALREADY COLONISED with this bacterium. Its all very well saying your relative/freind/whatever caught MRSA in hospital, but do you have PROOF of that. IE: was your relative swabbed as NEGATIVE for it when they were initially admitted? Makes you think dont it!, 1 in 3, a third of the population, and most of these people do not know.
Womerry2 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 there is a defined difference between the PATIENTS using NGH, and the other two mentioned. excepting the childrens here, as it is a childrens hospital, and just comparing the other two: the NGH has to accept anything walking through the doors of A&E, the hallamshires addmissions are to a degree, policed, by not having an A&E, where anyone can wander in and they are on decidely different sides of town in terms of the areas they serve for planned/referred admissions too. you only have to take a wander around the vickers wards of NGH to see what i mean by this. Granted this should not make a difference to staff attitude, but guess its hard to be all sweetness and light when confronted by rude, uncouth drug users and general lowlife as compared to nice middle class planned admissions I very much doubt that there was any difference in my manner at either hospital; I do not suddenly become recognisably more one class than another depending on where in Sheffield I step off the No 22. The NG A&E was a great deal LESS busy than the Minor Injuries walk-in clinic at the Hallamshire last time I went there (there was just one very quiet elderly couple in the waiting area with us). I do not expect "sweetness and light", but I DO expect professional behaviour and manners. If staff feel that the patients are "general lowlife" unworthy of their attention, they might be happier working in the private Prison Service.
Betty1 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 May I respectfully request that the moderator change the title of this thread to ' Sheffield Community Health shamed on hygiene ' since the report in question refers to the Primary Care Trust and is nothing to do with Sheffield Hospitals. Thank you.
Betty1 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Im glad someone has put this on SF. My mum caught MRSA in the Northern General. And my Mum took MRSA INTO hospital despite having not been in hospital before ! Such sweeping comments inferring that everyone infected with MRSA caught the infection whilst in hospital is alarmist and incorrect.
Betty1 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Well they used to years ago, when I was a nurse. They only have to move them slightly to one side, clean, then move back again. Times have changed Pattricia - the workload has doubled -and I speak as someone who has been in the job for 30 years. the ' good old days' where not so good as you remember them. A touch of the rose tinted spectacles, I think. I can remember the ' good old days ' - cockroaches, crickets, mice , cats and pigeons were regular visitors on the wards.
pattricia Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Times have changed Pattricia - the workload has doubled -and I speak as someone who has been in the job for 30 years. the ' good old days' where not so good as you remember them. A touch of the rose tinted spectacles, I think. I can remember the ' good old days ' - cockroaches, crickets, mice , cats and pigeons were regular visitors on the wards. Yes, but No MRSA,Betty.
JFKvsNixon Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Yes, but No MRSA,Betty. It took a while for the bacteria to mutate into a version that could beat antibiotics. Mainly thanks to antibiotics given to farm animals and unsutible prescribing by GPs.
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