plekhanov Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 And you say i wear red tinted glasses Your honestly saying that out of all the players in world football, 6 players from Manchester Utd make up the best 11? No I'm saying that of the players I've seen play much 6 of the 11 play for United, it's a premiership weighted team as I obviously see premiership players most and United weighted as United are the best team in the Premiership and have many of the best player, the PFA team of the season for example woudl suggest I'm far from alone in that opinion. I would imagine if you asked 100 football experts their top 20 players in world football today, 6 of them would not come from the Manchester Utd side!! Many players/managers (Kaka, Eto'o, Ancelloti) to name a few have said that in their opinion Steven Gerrard is right up their with the very best yet he can't even break into your midfield?? I would predict that any top manager of any top team would take Gerrard over Scholes any day of the week! My idea for my team would be for Eissen & Scholes to play fairly deep with Eissen dominating and Scholes pulling the strings in much the same way as he did for United this season with that attacking 4 roaming free ahead of him, Gerrard can't play that role and Kaka is a better attacking midfielder.
LFCMadPaul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Even if you switch them Gerrard and Kaka is still an absurdly light central midfield of natural attackers hardly known for their defensive abilities.. I would hardly call Gerrard and Kaka light. Gerrard is much more than an out and out attacking midfield player! Indeed Risse isn't even the best fullback at Liverpool Finnan being much better,. Risse is a left back, Finnan is a right back, how do you compare? as for Carragher the levels of adulation heaped on him by Pool fans is just absurd especially considering how much protection he gets from Benitez's negative tactics. Benitez's negative tactics have made him one of the worlds most sought after managers!! Carragher is a fine CB in many peoples eyes, his defending and never say die attitude is to be admired. Only someone a little bitter would claim he is poor!
LFCMadPaul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 the PFA team of the season for example woudl suggest I'm far from alone in that opinion.. But this is the world's best 11 so the PFA's team of the season means nothing. As for your comments on seeing most football played in the premiership, as you are a Man U fan, that would mean you have seen Man U play the most, explaining why you have 6 players out of your team in a world 11. My idea for my team would be for Eissen & Scholes to play fairly deep with Eissen dominating and Scholes pulling the strings in much the same way as he did for United this season with that attacking 4 roaming free ahead of him, Gerrard can't play that role and Kaka is a better attacking midfielder. Gerrard can play that role perfectly. He is not a sole defensive midfielder like you say but he is not as attack minded as Kaka either. He is what you might call an all round midfielder which would suit the position you explained perfectly.
Preacher Man Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Gerrard is much more than an out and out attacking midfield player! Gerrard can play that role perfectly. He is not a sole defensive midfielder like you say but he is not as attack minded as Kaka either. He is what you might call an all round midfielder.. contradicting yourself there a little.. gerrard is an attacking midfielder which is why he never plays well with lampard who is another attacking midfielder..
LFCMadPaul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 contradicting yourself there a little.... Not at all. Read the posts fella! I said Gerrard was much more than just an attacking midfielder, he is an all round midfielder. I then went on to say he is not the most defensive player but is not as attacking as Kaka, which he isn't! gerrard is an attacking midfielder which is why he never plays well with lampard who is another attacking midfielder.. Mate, a midfielder doesn't have to be either defensive or attacking! He can be an all round midfield player which i believe Gerrard is. He can play central, defensive, attacking, wide etc all to good effect. This is why i believe (going back to the debate with Pleck) that Gerrard could play the role Pleck claimed Gerrard couldn't because he would have the cover of Essien. Maybe i am wrong, but IMO Gerrard would be in my first 11 over Scholes and you can bet your life he would be in almost every top managers sides over Scholes also
LFCMadPaul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 gerrard is an attacking midfielder which is why he never plays well with lampard who is another attacking midfielder.. Yes they don't play well together but could that be because Lampard totally obandons all defensive responsablity leaving Gerrard to do all the horse work which he admittedly claims he doesn't like. Gerrard with Hargreaves would be much better IMO.
Preacher Man Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Yes they don't play well together but could that be because Lampard totally obandons all defensive responsablity leaving Gerrard to do all the horse work which he admittedly claims he doesn't like. Gerrard with Hargreaves would be much better IMO. you have just said gerrard can play a defensive role! make your mind up. if he can play the defensive role then he could play it while lampard attacks.
tosh13 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 LFCMadPaul have you seen the news Rick Parry has gone along to the United tribunal to support us in our fight for reinstatment to the PL,good bloke & well done to Liverpool.
LFCMadPaul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 you have just said gerrard can play a defensive role! make your mind up. if he can play the defensive role then he could play it while lampard attacks. Your splitting hairs Preach. Yes he can play it, as he did in Englands last game, doesn't mean he likes it! The start of this particular debate was about if Gerrard should be included in a world 11 instead of Scholes. I think he should, though it's only my opinion.
LFCMadPaul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 LFCMadPaul have you seen the news Rick Parry has gone along to the United tribunal to support us in our fight for reinstatment to the PL,good bloke & well done to Liverpool. Just read it now Tosh! Hope the right verdict is come too!
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