CCTV To be Installed at Hillsborough Corner

[High5 10]

You've clearly not looked at the junction then. If you had, you'd know that anyone that tries to turn left on to Bradfield Road (ignoring the Ahead Only restriction) blocks the junction as it is a) not physically possible to get anything longer than a Fiat round the 90 degree bend b) extremely dangerous as the current phasing means that pedestrians will be crossing Bradfield Road as they turn in.

Turning right from Holme Lane probably causes fewer problems, other than severely affecting the public transport systems.

 

They're at the Deep End (as used to be called). If you drive with your eyes open, you'll spot the signs/restrictions.

18 June eh? Which year? Haven't we been repeatedly told of various deadlines going back many years now? I'll believe it when I see it.

I'll be pleased if/when it does happen. Particularly as someone who nearly got knocked of their bike there the other day by a selfish motorist who shouldn't even have been in the junction (and then the nutcase man decided to go and park in the parent & child only space at Tesco).

I'll be very interested to see the results, I suspect it will dramatically improve peak-hour flow around that junction as it won't be constantly blocked by/phased in favour of the traffic coming along Langsett/Middlewood. Time will tell.

 

No one has said you should be able to turn left over the crossing onto Bradfield, the thread is regarding the tram gates

[HotPhil 10]

There was a comment detailing the restrictions (including turning left onto Bradfield) which Cyclone responded saying the restrictions were stupid, I merely responded to that.

I, for one, am glad that something is at least being tried to make this a better junction for the city.

Rather than either slating or backing the tram gate, does anyone have ideas on how the junction should be laid out? I guess the solution needs to balance the fact that 20 or so trams, tens of buses and possibly motorists need to traverse the junction each hour? I don't think it's an easy problem to solve - bearing in mind that any layout needs to be beneficial to the city as a whole.

[Halibut 12]

Turning left or right on to Bradfield Rd from Hillsborough is illegal.

 

- and bloody dangerous. I've nearly been had by cars doing that on three occasions. I had two young children with me once and had to pull them back onto the pavement sharpish.

[sccsux 10]

They're at the Deep End (as used to be called).

 

I still refer to the building a Hillsborough Baths:).

 

 

hence why 500 vehicles/hr ignore them.

 

Which equates to about £250,000 in fines over an 8 hour period:D.

 

 

FTR.. I have no problems with the current situation/proposals (and I go through Hillsborough every day in the car) and will be pleased to see the CCTV introduced.

[surg 10]

There was a comment detailing the restrictions (including turning left onto Bradfield) which Cyclone responded saying the restrictions were stupid, I merely responded to that.

I, for one, am glad that something is at least being tried to make this a better junction for the city.

Rather than either slating or backing the tram gate, does anyone have ideas on how the junction should be laid out? I guess the solution needs to balance the fact that 20 or so trams, tens of buses and possibly motorists need to traverse the junction each hour? I don't think it's an easy problem to solve - bearing in mind that any layout needs to be beneficial to the city as a whole.

 

Lets get a few things straight here.The problem has always been that the correct infrastructure wasn't built in the first place. For a start;

 

1/ Hillsborough desperately needs a by-pass.With Penistone Road becoming a single carriageway in the near future due to the proposal for a dedicated bus lane to be built(which I am in favour of),the widening of Club Mill Road, which runs at the side of the River Don past Wardsend Cemetary and below Parkwood Springs exiting at Neepsend, to create a dual carriageway is vital in relieving traffic on both Penistone Road and Hillsborough corner. This would tie in well with the proposed new bridge over the River Don linking Middlewood Road with Claywheels Lane taking more traffic away from Hillsborough shopping centre!

 

2/When originally built Supertram should have been in a dedicated bus and tram lane from the Langsett estate to Hillsborough corner thereby widening this part of Langsett Road to 3 lanes,2 towards Hillsborough corner and 1 towards town. There would also be a short section of 4 lanes (2 in each direction) between Ripley Street and the Deep End to facilitate the right turn of traffic up Ripley Street from Hillsborough corner. This would enable Hillsborough corner to operate successfully without restrictions for both public transport and cars!

 

3/Cars heading down Ripley Street,from Walkley,would be allowed to turn left (as well as right) towards Hillsborough corner to either Middlewood Road or Holme Lane therefore allowing the bottom of Walkley Lane (Freemasons pub and bridge) to be closed off to all traffic. There would be no right turn from Langsett Road into Bradfield Road.

 

4/Taplin road between Hillsborough Place and Hawthorn Road would also be closed to all traffic with cars travelling down Hillsborough Place towards Holme Lane able to turn both left and right into Holme Lane with traffic lights controlling the junction.

 

NB. These proposals will only work in conjunction with the 'Hillsborough bypass'!

 

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[2wentypence 10]

Why is Hillsborough Corner such a technically difficult junction to sort out? Its a cross roads. I could design a solution in 10min on the back of a fag packet. It would involve a few traffic lights and some white line paint.

[surg 10]

Why is Hillsborough Corner such a technically difficult junction to sort out? Its a cross roads. I could design a solution in 10min on the back of a fag packet. It would involve a few traffic lights and some white line paint.

 

More details please?

[2wentypence 10]

More details please?

 

 

Same design as any other cross road.

[**Topgun** 10]

Please can I be there after the cameras are installed and the first articulated vehicle drives down Middlewood Road - sees the cameras - and for the first time does what the sign says - "turn right into Taplin Road" ouch.

[surg 10]

Same design as any other cross road.

 

Please explain how that helps to relieve the situation?

[*_ash_* 88]

Why is Hillsborough Corner such a technically difficult junction to sort out? Its a cross roads. I could design a solution in 10min on the back of a fag packet. It would involve a few traffic lights and some white line paint.

 

It's the same as every junction where the tram crosses. I can't of one where the tram doesn't **** up the signalling.

[2wentypence 10]

Please explain how that helps to relieve the situation?

 

It removes confusion. Theres lots of busy junctions in the city. If youre in a hurry avoid them