Cyclone   10 #8461 Posted August 19, 2011 http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/pdfs/Cough_Up_-_March__10.pdf Net loss to the UK of £3bn per annum from smoking...  It would probably help if you read your own link.  however, we calculate that the costs to society from smoking are much greater at £13.74 billion.  Not really supporting this statement (the one I said was wrong)  I can assure you the national heath spends more on treating long term smoking related illness then they get in tax from fags  The cost to society is obviously not just the cost of the NHS. It includes a notional figure for production lost to cigarette breaks and years of life lost to smoking related disease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #8462 Posted August 19, 2011 im must say iv just come back from skeggy..and whent in the local pubs,my hubby paid an average of £1.40-£1.80 for stones,and in our wmc club its £2.45 per pint...the pubs at skeggy most are seasonal so they must make money to keep em going..around sheffield they just rob us blind out for the kill  Why not become a landlord then if it's such easy money. You could charge £2/pint and be filled with customers and still quids in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteM01 Â Â 10 #8463 Posted August 19, 2011 Seems to be pretty clear cut that tax revenue is higher than the cost. Â Clearly an untrue statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tam1   10 #8464 Posted August 19, 2011 It would probably help if you read your own link.   Not really supporting this statement (the one I said was wrong)    The cost to society is obviously not just the cost of the NHS. It includes a notional figure for production lost to cigarette breaks and years of life lost to smoking related disease.  where i work you are allowed a break like everyother employee, if you choose to smoke in that break it is up to you. I have friends work for the NHS and University and the same applies to them. I honestly don't know anyone who has specific cigarette breaks, which their non-smoking colleague are not allowed to have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #8465 Posted August 19, 2011 Maybe it's just that dying younger has a notional cost to society then. The 13 billion figure isn't mine, and it's also not the cost to the NHS, so they must have made it up somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #8466 Posted August 19, 2011 Clearly an untrue statement.  Maybe you can explain how £2.5 billion is not less than £10 billion then?  I'll look forwards to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Shogun   10 #8467 Posted August 19, 2011 It would probably help if you read your own link.   Not really supporting this statement (the one I said was wrong)    The cost to society is obviously not just the cost of the NHS. It includes a notional figure for production lost to cigarette breaks and years of life lost to smoking related disease.  The money that the NHS gets whether it comes from fags or any thing else is wasted on cover the cost of treating self inflicted smoking related illness, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
soft ayperth   11 #8468 Posted August 19, 2011 I don't think it will be long before they ban smoking outside as well, hopefully.  Like I said in a previous post, they already have where I live. UK is playing catch up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Shogun   10 #8469 Posted August 19, 2011 Like I said in a previous post, they already have where I live. UK is playing catch up.  I would not want to eat outside there there are grizzly bears everywhere:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #8470 Posted August 19, 2011 The money that the NHS gets whether it comes from fags or any thing else is wasted on cover the cost of treating self inflicted smoking related illness,  That doesn't alter the fact that the government takes more in tax on smoking than it spends on healthcare due to smoking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tam1 Â Â 10 #8471 Posted August 19, 2011 The money that the NHS gets whether it comes from fags or any thing else is wasted on cover the cost of treating self inflicted smoking related illness, Â Many smokers work and pay into the system like myself. Who are you to say who can get treated or not, God Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #8472 Posted August 19, 2011 Most injuries are self inflicted at the end of the day. From sports, from accidents, from bad decisions...  Illness is less often self inflicted, but smoking is comparable to playing football in that you're likely to need hospital treatment at some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...