Zamo Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Of course it's institutionally racist. Massive organisations run by white men usually are. Macpherson commented about this but you can do a google search if you want exact citations. So white men running large organisations are usually racists? If that isn't a sweeping racist statement then I don't know what is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Massive organisations run by white men usually are. Can you not see how hypocritical you're being? You are labelling something because of the colour of its skin. How can you not see how ridiculous you sound? Shall we ask Pte Beharry (A Grenada National and Commonwealth Soldier who deservedly won this nations highest accolade) if the Army is as you so knowledgeably put it, "institutionally rasict?" Or we could maybe speak to the (ex) Commedore of HMNB Portsmouth, one of this countrys biggest military bases, RADM Amjad Hussein? The only reason why he is the ex- Commodore is because he has just been promoted to Admiral. Mr Hussein, on promotion actually wrote an article for a defence journal about his promotion through the ranks. He said that never once was his race ever an issue or factor for him or his superiors. (I have searched for this on the net but unfortunatly cannot find it although I hope you take my word for it.) These are just two high profile cases, there are countless more. I dont like to use these arguments because its not fair to use a persons race in cases like this, people win promotions and awards on MERIT and ABILITY. The only person who is prejudice and cant see that here is you. And before someone says that some Ruperts get promotions because Daddy was a General, yes of course that does go on, my point is that no matter where you are born, no matter what colour your skin is in todays Armed Forces, if you are good enough, you will achive. The Forces have moved on from the past decades, perhaps you should as well LibertyBell. Its as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr contrite Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Interesting to see the tory MP sacked for his comments about people being singled out for their differences i.e ginger,fat or black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john t Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I served i the Army through the 80's..Infantry...Was it a tough life...YES...did i have to put with it NO i didnt,but i choose that way of life..it wasnt choosen for me...Did i enjoy my time in the forces..YES..and NO.... i think that also there is loyalty to your regiment as well...thats where people tended to sort out stuff in a way that would not go down well in todays sociaty..If you had an issue with a soldier of same rank..you went round the back and sorted between you 2 with an nco there to stop things getting out of hand so to speak..then that was it..move on.... Did i witness rascism..well no i didnt..bullying...only now and again...and i think things have vasly improved since my time... But also..i know the standard of soldiering had dropped as well. it was aparent to me that in the late 80's we were getting so called fit young lads who had just passsed out..who couldnt pass a bft then...I hope that standards have improved in that time since i left.... jt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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