firecracker   10 #229 Posted February 3, 2007 Hmmm, too late? too late for what? I suggest you read other people's posts, so I refer you to this So it'll be too late for the whole country when 6% of the less than 3% muslims of the population of this country take over? How will we sleep tonight knowing that? Although LordC mentioned the Balkans, this however is not the Balkans, so go easy, you'r quite safe for now.  Its so comforting to say "you're quite safe - for now". 60% of 'British' Muslims wan't Sharia law imposing here in Britain - FOR ALL! There are now around two million Muslims here in Britain so far. They make up around 3.3% of the population, but give birth to 8% of the babies. By the end of this century, on demographic trends, they'll make up one fifth of the population of Britain, and considerably more in 2150. In France now, one person in nine is a Muslim, and they make up 70% of France's prison population, and are on schedule to make up the majority of France's population by 2080. And the Koran commands them to kill non-Muslims and work to create an Islamic planet. Islam is a religion built for conquest, and the reason why Europe isn't Islamic so far is because of events in Tours and Poitiers in 732, the Reconquista in Spain, and victory for the defenders of Vienna in 1529 and 1683. But all that looks set to be undone by the end of this century. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
artisan   10 #230 Posted February 3, 2007 Its so comforting to say "you're quite safe - for now". 60% of 'British' Muslims wan't Sharia law imposing here in Britain - FOR ALL! There are now around two million Muslims here in Britain so far. They make up around 3.3% of the population, but give birth to 8% of the babies. By the end of this century, on demographic trends, they'll make up one fifth of the population of Britain, and considerably more in 2150. In France now, one person in nine is a Muslim, and they make up 70% of France's prison population, and are on schedule to make up the majority of France's population by 2080. And the Koran commands them to kill non-Muslims and work to create an Islamic planet. Islam is a religion built for conquest, and the reason why Europe isn't Islamic so far is because of events in Tours and Poitiers in 732, the Reconquista in Spain, and victory for the defenders of Vienna in 1529 and 1683. But all that looks set to be undone by the end of this century.  They can never take power as they are incapable of government. All Islamic countries a a shambles. If they ever came anywhere near achieving world domination, the planet would have descended into a morass of petty feuding between local barons. The situation can go many ways, before they are in a position to challenge the west. They can grow up and move into the 21st century They can destroy themselves by infighting Or they will disappear as a part of history, when we find an alternative source of power than oil.  It is only the fact they have the oil that gives them any semblance of real power, they would have been trodden under foot long since if it was not for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tab1 Â Â 10 #231 Posted February 4, 2007 Another aspect of the ' Muslim ' problem is that Islam is a much more pervasive influence in the lives of Muslims than, for example, Christianity is for Christians. Wherever it exists, Islam, for good or bad, is part and parcel of a typical Muslim's life. Totaly agree and Islam teaches nothing that is bad in your everyday life. You have a problem when you say Islam teaches bad things like respect for elders and the young, and not to decieve or lie, and to pray and be thankful to your lord. So simply means to be a good muslim you have to be a good person, so not much wrong with that. Â Â Â It is far more centralised in every respect than most other faiths, it sees its duty as being evangalical on a world-wide basis, is very well disciplined in a lot of respects and often regards loyalty to its faith as far more important than loyalty to a particular community or country. If your faith is what defines who you are and how good a person you are, so why should your country be more important. Your faith is you. Loyalty surely comes from judgement of a situation, like for example TB's decision to follow Bush into war and hoodwinking his own people into supporting it. Who is he more loyal to? Â Â For all the above reasons, a small group of fanatics find it easy, or comparitavely easy, to sway a much larger number . As Lord Chaverly rightly pointed out, it didn't take that many fanatical Bolsheviks or Nazis to influence and/or control a whole nation. The Islamists, in common with the Nazis and Communists have a ' world view ', a vision and determination to convert people to their way of life, its own untouchable icons who cannot be contradicted, only interpreted at most, [ Hitler, Marx, Mohammed] and a largely a-political population to 'work upon '. World view? How many muslim countries are there? Why isn't there one Islamic nation? Surely it must be easy to implement your theory of world domination by at least getting their own countries under one flag, so why hasn't it happened? Your theory falls flat on face when you look at the reality. This world dominatin ambition alegation on Islam is tripe, always banded about by the hatemongers to justify their own shemful position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tab1 Â Â 10 #232 Posted February 4, 2007 But of course,if you can hoodwink enough people into thinking that you're the victims, or even if you can occupy their attention long enough by making the claim, you can divert that attention away from what is actually going on So so true, and who would know better than Tony Blair? Cuts both ways kay_cee. Â Look at this report as an example. Attacks of hatred against Jews in our own country has tripled in the last ten years, and is up by 31% in the last year alone. Yet it's 'Islamaphobia' that gets all the attention. Â So somehow even the attacks inspired by your own racist hatemongers is fault of the muslims? You seem to be suggesting it's ok to hate muslims and attacks on muslims are acceptable, but not the jews. The problem then seems to be people like you spreading hate and the demonising muslims are forgetting that those simple enough to be inspired to hate anybody different, don't usually have the mental capcity to defrenciate. You do have resposability on your shoulders, so stop winging. As for the terrorist plot foiled, what have we heard so far, any more news? For surveylance that has been going on for months and details of the plot released, the charges are taking a long time coming, and fuel the conspiracy theories if only out of intregue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
royjames   10 #233 Posted February 4, 2007 As for the terrorist plot foiled, what have we heard so far, any more news? For surveylance that has been going on for months and details of the plot released, the charges are taking a long time coming, and fuel the conspiracy theories if only out of intregue.    If and when the moslem alledged terrorists are convicted it will be interesting to hear your comments on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tab1 Â Â 10 #234 Posted February 4, 2007 If and when the moslem alledged terrorists are convicted it will be interesting to hear your comments on it? If and when they are Roy, indeed I along with majority of decent people on here condemn all forms of terrorism, muslim or otherwise. How about simmliar condemnation for the hatemongers in your camp? Show some spine man and dare you to do the decent thing and condemn them. Jade Goody said something that fits people like you, something about being so stuck up somewhere and mentioned being able to smell something or other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
royjames   10 #235 Posted February 4, 2007 If and when they are Roy, indeed I along with majority of decent people on here condemn all forms of terrorism, muslim or otherwise. How about simmliar condemnation for the hatemongers in your camp? Show some spine man and dare you to do the decent thing and condemn them. Jade Goody said something that fits people like you, something about being so stuck up somewhere and mentioned being able to smell something or other  Nice try to try to change the agenda on to others but this is the moslem alledged terror thread so keep on topic eh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tab1 Â Â 10 #236 Posted February 4, 2007 Nice try to try to change the agenda on to others but this is the moslem alledged terror thread so keep on topic eh. Spine not found then, oh dear why am I not surprised? typical! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firecracker   10 #237 Posted February 4, 2007 They can never take power as they are incapable of government. All Islamic countries a a shambles. If they ever came anywhere near achieving world domination, the planet would have descended into a morass of petty feuding between local barons. The situation can go many ways, before they are in a position to challenge the west. They can grow up and move into the 21st century They can destroy themselves by infighting Or they will disappear as a part of history, when we find an alternative source of power than oil.  It is only the fact they have the oil that gives them any semblance of real power, they would have been trodden under foot long since if it was not for that. I guess there was no shortage of Byzantines who thought along many of those lines (except the oil bit) 1,000 years ago. Where is the Byzantine Empire today, or more to the point, where has it been since 1453? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Green Web   10 #238 Posted February 5, 2007 Look at this report as an example. Attacks of hatred against Jews in our own country has tripled in the last ten years, and is up by 31% in the last year alone. Yet it's 'Islamaphobia' that gets all the attention.  When i lived in Golders Green London there was numerous horrific attacks by the BNP and other exreme right wing groups on the large Jewish community which very rarely got highlighted in the local press, and yet if there was even a slight incident inviolving a muslim everyone would know about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tab1 Â Â 10 #239 Posted February 5, 2007 When i lived in Golders Green London there was numerous horrific attacks by the BNP and other exreme right wing groups on the large Jewish community which very rarely got highlighted in the local press, and yet if there was even a slight incident inviolving a muslim everyone would know about it. Â So perhapse your advice to muslims is to get attacked by the fluffy and ever so nice and cuddly racists and not report it? That's bright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY (2) Â Â 10 #240 Posted February 5, 2007 Seems to me that there is only one racist on this thread and its you tab1. You cant take anything negative said about muslims in any way EVEN when its true! Oh, sorry my mistake. Muslims CANT be racist, its only us nasty white men who do that. Now, wheres my KKK members card? :loopy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...