King Rat Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Your first initial response is probaly what a silly question, however when you consider all that their is loads of industries which employ millions of people to deal with people who commit crime then what would these people do if it wasn't necessary anymore? Plus knowing that it is virtually impossible to even conceive a crime free world, would it be over the edge to say that crime is a necessary evil? Does crime need to exist in our society? What about for humanity, as a whole? Do we need criminals for our existence? Do criminals empower the law abiding citizen? Do criminals make some people feel godly? Could life exist without crime? What do you think and what impact do you think this has on our existence, knowing that it is perpetual? Should we be more accepting of criminals? If so, to what extent? Discuss............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 well like everything in society theres a whole industry built on it. from the police, judges, prisons, solicitors, probation, security firms, the security in shops etc etc theres always been crime throughout history, it aint going nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medusa Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 For a start, to discuss this we'd need to define 'crime'. Are we implying that every single person has such a highly tuned conscience that they never ever ever speed or park for longer than they're meant to? Or are we talking about a society where the ability to speed has been taken away by having drive by wire cars capped to the speed limit? If we're talking about the cars being limited then there would be a backlash and a certain amount of resentment against that- for that, we could read 'speeding when they can' i.e. crime. If everyone blindly lived by the rules because they were rules, wouldn't that take away almost every scrap of imagination, creativity and inventiveness in the world? I'm not saying that crime is right- but I do believe in challenging things mentally and justifying what we do, not just doing things without thought because there's a rule about it, and I'm not sure that mental rigour comes with blind rule following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 society doesn't need crime it just has it and needs to deal with it. as always the problem is people, there has always been and will always be crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky543 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Do criminals empower the law abiding citizen? Dont you feel that the criminals are becoming more empowered? When they injure themselves breaking into someones property they have the nerve to try and sue the owner. If they do break in, they know that they'll have loads of time before the police turn up if at all. Shoplifters accept getting caught as an occupational hazard as they just get a slap on the wrist. A criminal who steals a car will probably get less punishment than someone who gets caught speeding or has a defective tyre. These are just a few observations from newspapers/news programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Rat Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 Dont you feel that the criminals are becoming more empowered? When they injure themselves breaking into someones property they have the nerve to try and sue the owner. If they do break in, they know that they'll have loads of time before the police turn up if at all. Shoplifters accept getting caught as an occupational hazard as they just get a slap on the wrist. A criminal who steals a car will probably get less punishment than someone who gets caught speeding or has a defective tyre. These are just a few observations from newspapers/news programs. Yes I agree there are plenty of examples where criminals have got lenient sentences & have more rights than what they used to, however you can empower law abiding citizens by letting them play more of a active role in community policing which is now becoming more & more popular & then when the police have the support of law abiding people in the community this would obviously empower the law abiding citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camping_gaz Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 the problem is you dont know what there going to make a crime next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Your first initial response is probaly what a silly question, however when you consider all that their is loads of industries which employ millions of people to deal with people who commit crime then what would these people do if it wasn't necessary anymore? If crime disappeared tomorrow (through some miracle cure) then there would be a period of readjustment as all these people reskilled and changed careers. In the long run though this is a non issue. Plus knowing that it is virtually impossible to even conceive a crime free world, would it be over the edge to say that crime is a necessary evil? Does crime need to exist in our society? What about for humanity, as a whole? No, it's just the emergent behaviour of a complex rule based society. People are naturally selfish and not naturally moral, if people perceive that they can get ahead through prohibited behaviour then they will do so. Do we need criminals for our existence?no Do criminals empower the law abiding citizen?maybe, but so what Do criminals make some people feel godly?no, although they might make them feel morally superior Could life exist without crime?yes of course it could What do you think and what impact do you think this has on our existence, knowing that it is perpetual?i'm not sure I understand the question. We accept that people are selfish and that crime exists, we set rules (supposedly based on the values of our society) and then we try to enforce them. Should we be more accepting of criminals? If so, to what extent?no, you can accept that crime will always exist without accepting the pathetic justifications that individual criminals offer. You can also not accept the justifications, but still have the intent of reforming the criminal to make them a productive member of society once again. Discuss............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSparkle Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The GOVERNMENT needs crime, simple as. Criminal activity is their excuse to bring in draconian, liberty-denying laws to keep the rest of us in our place and under control Our rulers - and the media - use crime, and particularly fear of crime to cow the general populace. StarSparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liose Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 We need the death sentence!!! That will stop the overcrowding in our prisons, stop the serious offenders reoffending (i.e protecting the innocent children in our society), cost us tax payers less in reform/rehabilitaion and maybe act as a deterrent people who know they are going to get off lightly in our current system. Yes, this is no doubt a controversial view and I will get critised or questioned about my views but to be honest, our government and society has totally lost the plot with our justice system and it comes to something when are criminals are getting rights - and no, before you ask - they don't deserve rights in my opinion. And in my rant, I am talking about the serious criminals such as callous murderer/rapists/paedophiles etc and not those with 32mph speeding fines or those who shop lift - but at the same time - those petty crimes should also be dealt with appropriately and not just a slap on the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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