Toilet intrigue whats the crack?

[swarm]

I'm curious what your take is on the concept of gender-specific bathrooms. Although they're called "men's toilets" and "women's toilets," the distinction is not merely due to the fact that the two genders have different parts and need different facilities, it's due to the level of discomfort that would arise if two beings with a natural sexual pull are sharing such an intimate environment. Women, in particular, do (and should) feel uncomfortable being exposed (and essentially vulnerable) in a room with strange guys who are also exposed. The potential for sexual harassment is probably statistically small, but it's still the core motivation for separation.

 

How, then, do gays figure into this? The issue obviously isn't that gay men are really women, and therefore need to use the women's room, but that the same sexual motivations that result in gender distinction apply. Realistically, there's no difference between the discomfort of a man in the women's room and a lesbian in the women's room; the same applies for men and gay men.

 

What, then, is the course of action? Do we make everything gender-neutral? Do we also make "gay bathrooms?" The status quo is not practical.

 

And don't try to argue that the fear of a gay man "molesting" a straight man in the bathroom is unwarranted. I could tell you the same thing for the idea of a straight man in the women's room - but society believes it's a valid fear and wants the distinction.

[JumpingJack]

I dont think Id have a problem, Im quite comfortable to take a dump in front of my own mother with the door open, its only natural..... Would it be male or female decor for the bathrooms? Mens with p*** and vomit on the walls, or womens with carpet, diamond bog roll holders, and silky sheets? And if anyone `molested` me anywhere let alone a bathroom Id give em a bloody good hiding.

[never wrong]

it wont be long before this thread goes down the pan

[KJ_VENOM]

it wont be long before this thread goes down the pan

 

oh dear never wrong, lowering the tone already :hihi:

[JumpingJack]

it wont be long before this thread goes down the pan

Dont let it then.

[Chris_Sleeps]

gay men [...] the same sexual motivations that result in gender distinction apply.

I'm sure gay men can use the loo without their lust overcoming them.

[KJ_VENOM]

back on topic i have to say i've never been intimidated or even felt intimidated to use a toilet in a gay pub/club i look at it that if i'm in there to empty my bladder then the chances are any gay man is in there to do the same not to be 'on the pull'

[mjlacey21]

Would parents like the idea of young daughters sharing an isolated, enclosed space with older men? Plus men's toilets smell like stale urea and ladies toilets smell of the more subtle odour of poo masked by perfume.

[JumpingJack]

Would parents like the idea of young daughters sharing an isolated, enclosed space with older men? Plus men's toilets smell like stale urea and ladies toilets smell of the more subtle odour of poo masked by perfume.

Suppose your right, I wouldnt like my little lad sharing the loo with some recently divorced sexually driven mature woman either.

[seriessix]

What about the open air outdoor urinals they rave on about in Amsterdam and Paris - should there be one of these on every street corner? Would it add some much needed continental flair to Sheffield?