Draggletail Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 City living: Are they the tenements of tomorrow? Scenario - Far too many dwellings are eventually built fo the city to sustain. Many developers and private landlords go bust. Dwellings are seized as assets and sold at auction for what they can get (not very much) Buildings stand empty and are not maintained. Chavs move in etc etc What do you think? Is this a possible future? Have you any 'Sheffield futures scenarios' you'd like to post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris@25 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Why do people think there are too many dwellings being built? We're building far less than we used to, it seems the thing is that they are largely flats in places that people can see rather than houses on the edge of town. I guess if you've never been to Mosborough you might not realise quite how many houses were built there in the 70s, 80s and 90s (answer: a lot). There might be a problem with too many buy to let landlords but they are just as likely to buy Victorian terraced houses as new city centre apartments aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I certainly think we're at saturation point, already, with the city centre flats, yet more are in the pipeline. I honestly do not believe they will be sustainable. According to some posters on this forum, who live in developments in the city centre are already complaining about the antisocial behaviours from other tenants, involving throwing up in communal areas, damage to lifts, etc., just like we experienced when the "streets in the sky" complexes turned into a dystopian slum. I forecast the exact same thing will happen / is already happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yep....I think the complexes of flats and apartments will eventually be inner city slums, probably in not too many years time either. Remember how grand and modern the 1950's Inner City housing schemes appeared at the time......most of them are now either demolished or in no go areas......large concentrations of people living on top of each other is a recipe for disaster if the social mix forming the base of the community starts to diversify too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattski Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 This subject comes up periodically and nothing new is ever added except the latest witticism regarding the certain failure of these developments. Please guys, give it a break. Negativity is one thing but purposefully, systematically and repetitivly putting Sheffield and its regeneration down does no good to anyone. You just come across as mean spirited and miserly and happy with nothing but schadenfreude. And the bug difference you all sem to miss is that these are private properties and as such are subject to an entirely different set of factors than their public sector predecessors. For a start, they are designed to be nice not cheap. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaytsev Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I certainly think we're at saturation point, already, with the city centre flats, yet more are in the pipeline. I honestly do not believe they will be sustainable. According to some posters on this forum, who live in developments in the city centre are already complaining about the antisocial behaviours from other tenants, involving throwing up in communal areas, damage to lifts, etc., just like we experienced when the "streets in the sky" complexes turned into a dystopian slum. I forecast the exact same thing will happen / is already happening. Which makes the imbecilic re-vamp of Park Hill even more astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathom Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I wonder will people want to stay in these 'apartments' once they start to have kids? If so, then it means schools will have to be built in the city centre together with other services. Otherwise they will eventually just become ghettoes for young people and might not stay so sparkly and neat for so long, as they won't be kept as well maintained. It sounds like a lot of them are already being let to students - and why not, as they're close to all the pubs, and if students want to pay more rent for that then why shouldn't they? But it will also mean more deterioration, and more noise, and as these things grow, long term residents might start moving out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I wonder will people want to stay in these 'apartments' once they start to have kids? I think these apartments are specifically designed for people who don't want kids. The demographic is changing and there are more and more single people now. If I was looking for a place, I think I'd choose a city centre apartment because it would fit in with my lifestyle. The sanctity of marriage is a thing of the past, so it's only fair to say that three bedroom suburban semis are too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattricia Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 They are springing up everywhere.Flats, lofts, studio apartments ! Are we getting ready for a childless society in the future ? Seriously though,I do think there is always a call for single persons living quarters.The builders never have them left on their hands and can charge as much as a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulmat Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 This subject comes up periodically and nothing new is ever added except the latest witticism regarding the certain failure of these developments. Please guys, give it a break. Negativity is one thing but purposefully, systematically and repetitivly putting Sheffield and its regeneration down does no good to anyone. You just come across as mean spirited and miserly and happy with nothing but schadenfreude. And the bug difference you all sem to miss is that these are private properties and as such are subject to an entirely different set of factors than their public sector predecessors. For a start, they are designed to be nice not cheap. M I agree completely. @Plaintalker, do you have anything to base your thought that were at saturation point? At all the people who think that there's gonna be a shortage of kids in the future. People aren't gonna live in a city centre appartment all their lives. They'll move out to a house with a garden, and extra rooms when they have kids. Someone else will just move in. It's not like when someone moves out of a house it remains empty for years. And I don't get what the difference is between living in a terraced house or an appartment. It's just the same, except you have your neighbors above and below you instead of at the siddes. Many appartments have more floorspace than terraced houses anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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