A wander around Leeds- another Leeds vs Sheffield thread

[firecracker 10]

At the weekend, I popped into Leeds. And the first impressions for someone visiting Leeds for the first time (I've been many times) - a railway station with a cathedral-like interior for spaciousness. 17 platforms, several of which are long enough to take full-size Eurostars - everything you'd expect from a major city. Outside the station the Old Post Office has two top class restaurants, whilst inside the shopping areas, shops like Aldo, Kurt Geiger, Louis Vuitton, Hugo Boss, Cecil Gee, Borders, Reiss, Firetrap, the likes of Vidal Sassoon, and ventured into places like Browns, Prohibition, The Living Room etc. There's nothing to match this in Sheffield, where there is a provincial railway station overlooked by the hideous Park Hill Flats - made more hideous by the fact that the leaves have fallen from the trees, exposing more of this concrete monstrosity to all and asunder. Near the Castle Market tram stop, theres the awful Castle Market and the hideous Roxy complex with its row of empty but one or two shops which urgently needs blowing up, and inside Sheffield itself, the horrible chav-riddled Moor and Grosvenor Hotel with its plethora of pound and phone shops - a sharp contrast to the offerings of Leeds. Likewise, we get to Devonshire and Division Street, plus West Street with its motley collection of mediocre bars and lockup shops which have an uncanny resemblance to one side of Sheffield Road or the first 200 metres of Doncaster Road, in effect almost any street in Barnsley. Not what you'd expect from a major city. Leeds looks far more prosperous than Sheffield and indeed it is. Sheffielders talk about the Peak District on the doorstep, but these hills don't produce highly-paid jobs, which Sheffield urgently needs, to sustain bars and shops of the quality of Leeds (or Manchester or Nottingham for that matter), and neither does slagging off Loiners as 'pretentious'. Like it or not, Sheffield is a city with a no-name hick way of thinking place which is 20 years behind these mentioned three (would Loiners sign petitions to keep cooling towers standing?) . This is what you get for thinking in biggest village terms.

[fox20thc 10]

Oh dear...

[fox20thc 10]

* Famous musical performers from Sheffield include The Artic Monkeys, Pulp, Joe Cocker, Def Leppard and the Human League

 

* 7.2% of Sheffield's working population are employed in the creative industries, well above the national average of 4%

 

* Guardian readers recently voted Sheffield's Showroom their favourite independent cinema

 

* The Crucible Theatre won the prestigious title of Barclays Theatre of the Year 2001

 

 

..... Living

 

* Sheffield is one of the safest cities in the UK (according to Government statistics)

 

* One third of Sheffield is within the Peak District National Park (no other UK city has a national park within its boundary)

 

* Sheffield is England's greenest city, containing 150 woodlands and 50 public parks

 

* Half of the city's population live within 15 minutes of open countryside

 

 

..... Learning

 

* The University of Sheffield was voted Sunday Times University of the Year 2001/02

 

* Sheffield was voted Most Popular UK Student Destination (Virgin)

 

* Sheffield's two Universities teach more than 45,000 students

 

* Sheffield Hallam University is the only new University chosen to pioneer Britain's new international e-university project - alongside Cambridge and York

 

* Sheffield College is the largest further education college in Europe

 

 

..... Sport

 

*

The first Football rule book was produced in Sheffield in 1857

 

* Sheffield Football Club is the oldest football club in the world - traditional rivals Hallam FC has the oldest football ground

 

* Sheffield's Crucible Theatre has hosted the World Professional Snooker Championships every year since 1977

 

* The Sheffield Ski Village is Europe's largest outdoor artificial ski resort

 

* Opened in 2003, Sheffield is the home of the National Ice Centre, iceSheffield

 

..... Investment

 

 

* Sheffield offers the highest level of funding assistance anywhere in Europe for inward investors

 

* A workforce of over 1 million people live within one hour's drive of the City

 

* Established and growing areas of expertise include metals and glass technology, biosciences, medical technology and creative industries

 

* Major organisations who have recently established new operations in Sheffield include Dixons, William Hill, Royal Mail and Insight

 

* The City Centre is undergoing major redevelopment, through key projects such as the new Retail Quarter and the E campus, a high technology business park

..... Made in Sheffield

 

* Stainless steel (over 500,000 tonnes per year) - invented in Sheffield by Harry Brearley in 1913

 

* Liquorice Allsorts - Sheffield's sweet makers, Cadbury Trebor Bassett, celebrated 100 years of production on 8th June 1999

 

* Hendersons Relish - invented about 120 years ago and still produced in Sheffield using a secret recipe

 

* Surgical blades - over half of the world's surgical blades are made in Sheffield

 

SHEFFIELD IS GREAT!

[scottyboo 10]

haven't i just read a thread with same topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[firecracker 10]

* Famous musical performers from Sheffield include The Artic Monkeys, Pulp, Joe Cocker, Def Leppard and the Human League

 

* 7.2% of Sheffield's working population are employed in the creative industries, well above the national average of 4%

 

* Guardian readers recently voted Sheffield's Showroom their favourite independent cinema

 

* The Crucible Theatre won the prestigious title of Barclays Theatre of the Year 2001

 

 

..... Living

 

* Sheffield is one of the safest cities in the UK (according to Government statistics)

 

* One third of Sheffield is within the Peak District National Park (no other UK city has a national park within its boundary)

 

* Sheffield is England's greenest city, containing 150 woodlands and 50 public parks

 

* Half of the city's population live within 15 minutes of open countryside

 

 

..... Learning

 

* The University of Sheffield was voted Sunday Times University of the Year 2001/02

 

* Sheffield was voted Most Popular UK Student Destination (Virgin)

 

* Sheffield's two Universities teach more than 45,000 students

 

* Sheffield Hallam University is the only new University chosen to pioneer Britain's new international e-university project - alongside Cambridge and York

 

* Sheffield College is the largest further education college in Europe

 

 

..... Sport

 

*

The first Football rule book was produced in Sheffield in 1857

 

* Sheffield Football Club is the oldest football club in the world - traditional rivals Hallam FC has the oldest football ground

 

* Sheffield's Crucible Theatre has hosted the World Professional Snooker Championships every year since 1977

 

* The Sheffield Ski Village is Europe's largest outdoor artificial ski resort

 

* Opened in 2003, Sheffield is the home of the National Ice Centre, iceSheffield

 

..... Investment

 

 

* Sheffield offers the highest level of funding assistance anywhere in Europe for inward investors

 

* A workforce of over 1 million people live within one hour's drive of the City

 

* Established and growing areas of expertise include metals and glass technology, biosciences, medical technology and creative industries

 

* Major organisations who have recently established new operations in Sheffield include Dixons, William Hill, Royal Mail and Insight

 

* The City Centre is undergoing major redevelopment, through key projects such as the new Retail Quarter and the E campus, a high technology business park

..... Made in Sheffield

 

* Stainless steel (over 500,000 tonnes per year) - invented in Sheffield by Harry Brearley in 1913

 

* Liquorice Allsorts - Sheffield's sweet makers, Cadbury Trebor Bassett, celebrated 100 years of production on 8th June 1999

 

* Hendersons Relish - invented about 120 years ago and still produced in Sheffield using a secret recipe

 

* Surgical blades - over half of the world's surgical blades are made in Sheffield

 

SHEFFIELD IS GREAT!

It hasn't made Sheffield prosperous though. And that is the bottom line. An economy half the size of Leeds and a GVA figure over £4,500 per person less.

[Rich 12]

At the weekend, I popped into Leeds. And the first impressions for someone visiting Leeds for the first time (I've been many times) - a railway station with a cathedral-like interior for spaciousness. 17 platforms, several of which are long enough to take full-size Eurostars - everything you'd expect from a major city. Outside the station the Old Post Office has two top class restaurants, whilst inside the shopping areas, shops like Aldo, Kurt Geiger, Louis Vuitton, Hugo Boss, Cecil Gee, Borders, Reiss, Firetrap, the likes of Vidal Sassoon, and ventured into places like Browns, Prohibition, The Living Room etc. There's nothing to match this in Sheffield, where there is a provincial railway station overlooked by the hideous Park Hill Flats - made more hideous by the fact that the leaves have fallen from the trees, exposing more of this concrete monstrosity to all and asunder. Near the Castle Market tram stop, theres the awful Castle Market and the hideous Roxy complex with its row of empty but one or two shops which urgently needs blowing up, and inside Sheffield itself, the horrible chav-riddled Moor and Grosvenor Hotel with its plethora of pound and phone shops - a sharp contrast to the offerings of Leeds. Likewise, we get to Devonshire and Division Street, plus West Street with its motley collection of mediocre bars and lockup shops which have an uncanny resemblance to Sheffield Road or the first 200 metres of Doncaster Road, in effect almost any street in Barnsley. Not what you'd expect from a major city. Leeds looks far more prosperous than Sheffield and indeed it is. Sheffielders talk about the Peak District on the doorstep, but these hills don't produce highly-paid jobs, which Sheffield urgently needs, to sustain bars ands shops of the quality of Leeds (or Manchester or Nottingham for that matter). Like it or not, Sheffield is a city with a no-name hick way of thinking place which is 20 years behind these mentioned three (would Loiners sign petitions to keep cooling towers standing?) . This is what you get for thinking in biggest village terms.

 

*cough* There's already a thread for slagging Leeds off *cough*

[rubydazzler 11]

firecracker, I'm getting seriously worried about this obsession you have with Leeds?

 

Go and have a lie down, honey, you'll feel ok once you move there permanently. I promise ....

 

 

 

and please can all you people stop quoting entire posts and then adding a one liner at the end ... think of the bandwidth fgs!

[Rich 12]

firecracker, I'm getting seriously worried about this obsession you have with Leeds?

 

Go and have a lie down, honey, you'll feel ok once you move there permanently. I promise ....

 

 

 

and please can all you people stop quoting entire posts and then adding a one liner at the end ... think of the bandwidth fgs!

 

I don't pay for it, Geoff does, so I don't have to worry about it... Cos nobody posts on my own forum

[Guest]

...Sheffield is a city with a no-name hick way of thinking place which is 20 years behind these mentioned three (would Loiners sign petitions to keep cooling towers standing?) . This is what you get for thinking in biggest village terms.

Off you toddle to live in Leeds then, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

[fox20thc 10]

It hasn't made Sheffield prosperous though. And that is the bottom line. An economy half the size of Leeds and a GVA figure over £4,500 per person less.

 

So why are you not living in Leeds if its so great?

[rubydazzler 11]

So why are you not living in Leeds if its so great?

 

S/he's probably too overawed, not sophisticated or rich enough

 

I wonder if s/he posts this vitriol about Barnsley on the Barnsley Forum?

[e5c4p3 10]

It hasn't made Sheffield prosperous though. And that is the bottom line.

 

But you live in 'prosperous' Barnsley. Now that really is the BOTTOM line.