scentral Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 God, I was bored on Saturday! No SUFC, Strictly CGI Dancing back on telly. Anyway, I was sat waiting for a bus in town and a First single-decker pulled up. I noticed (see how bored I was!) that it had "Gross unladen Weight" - or summat - of 11130 Kg. Next up was a Stagecoach single-decker with 8000-odd GUW. Hmm. Why around three tons difference? Next up was a First double-decker with GUW 11000-odd. Seems to me that, pro-rata and compared with the Stagecoach bus, First may have signed-up their entire fleet wrongly. Expensive mistake? Possible contravening one of the many rules and regs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottf Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 why would they have a rule about how heavy a bus can be? As long as the emmissions are ok and they don;t exceed the maximum weight allowed on the roads i can't see it being a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 the law says that you need the "axle weights" of vehicles as large as lorries and buses, i believe it's something to do with the maximum loads bridges can take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabbleRatcht Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 And the weight also defines the road tax you have to pay. Some operators tax their HGVs to 32 Tonnes but have the capacity to carry up to 40 Tonnes. One reason why you sometimes see random police checks at public weigh bridges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garryn Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 You have gross unladen weight, you also have total weight. Maximum weights apply. Tests for new vehicles include things such as 'tilt tests' where you weigh unladen. then you use weight to simulate passengers and luggage and weigh it again. You then take it to a test pit, where the vehicle is leant over to 37(?) degrees. All 4 wheels have to stay in contact with the ground. This is a test that has to be passed by the regulating government body before a bus/coach can go into production So yes weights are important and will have been stated correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volvoB10M Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I can assure you that they are not signed up wtong and the weights displayed are correct The Stagecoach single deckers are smaller buses than say the VolvoB10 and the Barbie,there is actualy very little difference between the weight of a Double and single decker. A first Volvo B6 will be about the same UL weight as a Stagecoach single decker,again because they are smaller buses and come in at around 7 tonnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I saw three buses in a row today, and they ALL had "First" painted on them! Surely they should have been different. The one at the front was correctly marked "First", but the middle and back buses should have been painted "Second" and "Third" respectively. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martss Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Bet they are queueing up to buy the name "Last". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom3t0 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 there after "lost" too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara01jbb Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I saw three buses in a row today, and they ALL had "First" painted on them! First Group got into all sorts of problems when they took over the former Great Western train franchise in and out of Paddington. They went to town painting the trains in their colours and applying the logo liberally all over the trains. Inside, this meant the word 'First' printed on the headrest covers. Yep. You guessed it. They began to find that many standard class passengers complained when they couldn't find any standard class seats... *j* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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