Lester_Bigot Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Was speaking to a friend of mine, who is a bit annoyed that he will soon be forced to retire. He is a University Lecturer, and feels as fit as a fiddle, and feels he could work for another 10 years. He welcomes the new age discrimination Laws. BUt I pointed out, that the retirement age is a safety net for millions of workers, and could therefore be a sneaky way of forcing people to work beyond 65. I personally feel ( I may be wrong here ) that the majority of people who favour raising (or scraping) the retirement age, are not people who work in heavy manual industrys, such as Road workers, or people who do 12 hour shifts in factorys for low pay. BUT I MAY BE WRONG. Are you in favour of raising the retirement age? and if you are, could you tell us what job you do (bit nosey). I would be interested to know what jobs the people do who favour the raising of retirement are employed in. I'd like to know what people who do backbreaking/long hours think too. Are you in favour of removing the retirement age? or do you want to keep it? PERSONALLY, MY OPINION IS. Get people retired off at 55, and give the thousands/millions of young unemployed people the jobs that would become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d71146 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Was speaking to a friend of mine, who is a bit annoyed that he will soon be forced to retire. He is a University Lecturer, and feels as fit as a fiddle, and feels he could work for another 10 years. He welcomes the new age discrimination Laws. BUt I pointed out, that the retirement age is a safety net for millions of workers, and could therefore be a sneaky way of forcing people to work beyond 65. I personally feel ( I may be wrong here ) that the majority of people who favour raising (or scraping) the retirement age, are not people who work in heavy manual industrys, such as Road workers, or people who do 12 hour shifts in factorys for low pay. BUT I MAY BE WRONG. Are you in favour of raising the retirement age? and if you are, could you tell us what job you do (bit nosey). I would be interested to know what jobs the people do who favour the raising of retirement are employed in. I'd like to know what people who do backbreaking/long hours think too. Are you in favour of removing the retirement age? or do you want to keep it? PERSONALLY, MY OPINION IS. Get people retired off at 55, and give the thousands/millions of young unemployed people the jobs that would become available. I believe the folk who work for your firm Lestor would love to see the retirement age Lowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 How would we live though? I've just received my pension forecast ... after working all my adult life, I'm going to receive the princely sum of £76.69 per week. Better than a slap in the face with a kipper, you might say. But hardly enough to live on, is it? If I'd retired at 55, it'd have been even less I suppose. So I guess I'll just keep on working whilever I can ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I wonder how many people really think about why we have 65 as a pension age? It is a completely arbitary number that doesn't really represent any particular point in time, but we have got so used to it that we have decided people are old when they are 65. In recent years we have started to think of people as being quite fit until much later in life. In contrast, we seem to have an ever larger sick and disabled population of people whocan't necessarily do a full time job but who are well below 65. In fact the age of 65 was pciked by Bismark at a time when German workers were expected to live until they were 49. This meant that the few who lived to past 65 would get a pension that the government of the time could afford. When other countries started to operate similar systems then may picked the same age of 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyesey Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Actually we picked 70; I'm not sure at what point it got lowered, but I know it was 70 when state pensions were introduced in 1910. And, yes, it was set that high because very few people would reach it. Now that the vast majority of people live to be over 65, raising the state pension age is not a matter for discussion; it either goes up, or the cost of the state pension will bankrupt the country and there won't BE a retirement age any more. Which do you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I wonder how many people really think about why we have 65 as a pension age? It is a completely arbitary number that doesn't really represent any particular point in time, but we have got so used to it that we have decided people are old when they are 65. In recent years we have started to think of people as being quite fit until much later in life. In contrast, we seem to have an ever larger sick and disabled population of people whocan't necessarily do a full time job but who are well below 65. In fact the age of 65 was pciked by Bismark at a time when German workers were expected to live until they were 49. This meant that the few who lived to past 65 would get a pension that the government of the time could afford. When other countries started to operate similar systems then may picked the same age of 65. I think 65 was picked in england because back in the day the life expectancy was around 67-68. Now it is much higher 65 makes no sense (using the same logic) and people should keep working if fit enough. This would also help solve the pensions crisis because then we would not have to pay as much out. I am 27 and by the time I get to 65 life expectancy may well be 100 - who is going to fund my pension for 35 years?? I would rather work a lot longer in this case so I can earn a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 No one forces you to retire at 65, the point is that you have the right to do so. Hasn't the state pension been abolished now for anyone who's currently below the age of about 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyesey Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 No one forces you to retire at 65, the point is that you have the right to do so. Hasn't the state pension been abolished now for anyone who's currently below the age of about 40. Not yet. It's a political death sentence for whatever government does it; but it will have to be done before long, whether they want to or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Not yet. It's a political death sentence for whatever government does it; but it will have to be done before long, whether they want to or not. why will they have to force people to retire at 65? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyesey Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 why will they have to force people to retire at 65? Sorry, I was talking about the abolition of the state pension. Crossed wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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