Justin Smith Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Every year 3500 people are killed on our roads and 350,000 (that`s a third of a million) are injured. These aren`t just figures, every one of them is someones son/daughter/father/mother....... In these days of Health & Safety overkill (pun intended !) the roads are actually a dangerous place to be and around 60 million of us are on them every day, not just drivers remember. Bearing all of the above in mind, everyone using the roads first priority should be to minimise the danger that they individually pose to each and everyone of the other 60 million, in fact they have a personal responsibility to do so. Is there anyone out there who can disagree with any of the above and if nobody can how come so many people drive so aggressively/speed and react so negatively to any attempt to improve road safety ? Figures : DfT http://www.gnn.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=230291&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False British Medical Journal http://www.brake.org.uk/index.php?p=841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackmonkey Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 :1) Your first figure is wrong according to latest dft release 2) your second figure is wrong 3) your third figure is wrong; the uk's total population is 60m and it's not all on the roads by any means. 4) your post is highly loaded, to the point of trolling, whether intended or not. It gives the impression that if anyone answered your question seriously, you would reply in a very particular manner about a very particular point that isn't in the OP. 5)Therefore, until you can get your basic facts right I'm not going to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Smith Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Wrong figures ? Are we really going to get hung up on a few percent either way when they change up and down every year ? One of the reasons I always use these figures is because they`re easy to remember (they`re not that far out anyway) but I think you`re missing the essential point. How many people in this country never go on the roads, either as a driver, a passenger , a pedestrian , a cyclist, a horse rider etc etc ? I would say none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginner Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 For reference - latest DfT analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Goose Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 While I agree with the thrust of the post (people should not drive like *tsds) - I think this line is good: "the roads are actually a dangerous place to be and around 60 million of us are on them every day," Who let all the prisoners out of prison, the sick out of hospital, the old out of care homes - are they driving around in secret at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 You're drawing a unsupported link between breaking the speed limit and road deaths/injuries. In the national press this morning is a story about how 95% of accidents are not attributed to excess speed (and in some cases excess doesn't even mean braking the posted limit). I'll agree that reducing road accidents and injuries would be a good thing, but if you're going to focus on speed as a means to doing that then I think you are seriously misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 While I agree with the thrust of the post (people should not drive like *tsds) - I think this line is good: "the roads are actually a dangerous place to be and around 60 million of us are on them every day," Who let all the prisoners out of prison, the sick out of hospital, the old out of care homes - are they driving around in secret at night? hehe - not to mention the 15 million under 17's. There are probably something like 30 million people with driving licenses, and probably no more than 5 million cars on the roads at any one time in the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginner Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 hehe - not to mention the 15 million under 17's. the roads are actually a dangerous place to be and around60 million of us are on them every day, not just drivers remember.... You've missed his point a little.... not to say that it's not flawed in other ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barny_100 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 See this and let us know what you think. I'm sure a new excuse will be created to justify speed camera proliferation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Smith Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Personally I`d rather be hit by a car doing 40mph than 60mph, but each to his own I suppose. The only objection I have to speed cameras is when the speed limit in their vicinity is unclear. There should be far more "repeater" speed limit signs and in addition my idea would be to paint it on the road so the limit is not only obvious but appears in the resulting picture taken by the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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