downtroad Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I have just been reading some polling information on torture. Before i share i wanted to see what the consesus on Sheffield forum is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtroad Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 Dam wanted to make this a poll! Mods can you help? Poll answers are; Is torture ever justified? Often. Sometimes. Rarely. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomi Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 No.Absolutely not.Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberwocky Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 The only thing that state-sponsored torture teaches people is the breaking strain of tendons and sinews, how tough the skin is on various parts of the body, how loud someone can scream, and how much pain and trauma they can take before they fall into unconciousness. Thats it. Thats all. No other reliable information can be gained. Its good for breaking someones spirit, but there are faster, more "Humane" ways to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 From what I have read, torture involving physical pain is pretty much useless. The person undergoing it will say whatever you want to hear. This may be all well and good if you just want a confession, but not much use if you require hard information. Modern interrogation techniques are supposed to get the best results, so surely developing that line of obtaining information is the best way. It would appear that this line of thinking was aroung even in the days when torture was widely used. The interrogators merely used to show the victim the instruments of torture, and explain their usage. In most cases this was enough to make the person give up his information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtroad Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 Mods would you mind if i created a new poll as i don't think people who are for it are likely to comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtroad Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 For everybody else, which religion would you think would be more in favor of torture? Bit of background the US Senate is debating a torture bill at the moment. As you know the US have been allowing some methods of interrogations classed as torture and they are debating if it should be retrospectively be made legal, so nobody can be prosecuted for it. The polling was really weird, and the persons religion was also asked. I was surprised by the finding in the US. It seems more Catholics than any other religion are for torture. The secular people had the least people for torture. I don't get how religious people (especially very strict Religions like Catholicism) can justify torture. http://static.firedoglake.com/2006/09/surveysez.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 For everybody else, which religion would you think would be more in favor of torture? Bit of background the US Senate is debating a torture bill at the moment. As you know the US have been allowing some methods of interrogations classed as torture and they are debating if it should be retrospectively be made legal, so nobody can be prosecuted for it. The polling was really weird, and the persons religion was also asked. I was surprised by the finding in the US. It seems more Catholics than any other religion are for torture. The secular people had the least people for torture. I don't get how religious people (especially very strict Religions like Catholicism) can justify torture. http://static.firedoglake.com/2006/09/surveysez.jpg Catholicism is a religion built almost entirely on encouraging feelings of guilt in the person. I think to the same extent this is also true in Islam. They are taught that they are not worthy of gods love, and must make atonement at all times. Perhaps it is these feelings of inadequacy, that lead them to thinking that the mortification of the flesh is the way to truth? The Passion of Christ is certainly a big deal within the Catholic church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtroad Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 Catholicism is a religion built almost entirely on encouraging feelings of guilt in the person. I think to the same extent this is also true in Islam. They are taught that they are not worthy of gods love, and must make atonement at all times. Perhaps it is these feelings of inadequacy, that lead them to thinking that the mortification of the flesh is the way to truth? The Passion of Christ is certainly a big deal within the Catholic church Very interesting hypothasis artisan. I just don't get it, the World has turned upside down. We have Religious people supporting war and torture. What ever happend to religion and the moral high ground? And secular people being the voice of traditional morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyesey Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I just don't get it, the World has turned upside down. We have Religious people supporting war and torture. What ever happend to religion and the moral high ground? Religion never HAD a moral high ground. Need I remind you of the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the burning of Giordano Bruno and the torture of Galileo, the numerous Catholics burned at the stake in 17th-century England, and the rise of the Ku Klux Klan in 19th-century America? And that's just Christianity, the religion, above all others, which brings a message of peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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