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Will Sheffield Hallam go Conservative again?


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:huh: Err, I think you missed the title of this thread..... Will Sheffield Hallam go Conservative again?

 

Um, no I didn't.

 

And yes, Hallam probably will go Tory again at some point, tell me is Eccleshall still in the Hallam ward? :hihi:

 

I'm sorry.

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Time to stop the rot in this thread, methinks.

 

We have 63 MPs, over 4,700 councillors, 12 MEPs, 17 members of the Scottish Parliament, 6 members of the Welsh Assembly and over 70,000 members - so clearly some people are taking us seriously. :rolleyes:

 

Maybe you'd like to tell us which policies you disagree with, rather than accusing us of "all being gay" - is that supposed to be an insult or something? :P

 

Indidentally, if you think all Lib Dem policies are just wishful thinking, the independence of the Bank of England (widely credited with helping stabilise the economy over the past 10 years) was a Liberal and then a Lib Dem policy decades before New Labour finally introduced it.

 

Apologies for the peevish tone, I just happen to be proud to be a liberal and a Lib Dem and I'd defy anyone to tell me a good reason I ought not to be.

 

 

 

 

50p tax rate for the rich is a good enough reason for me. That and the buffooons they have as leaders who have had the personality of a wet blanket. The libs will never get in power in this country, whilever I have got a hole in me bum

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Time to stop the rot in this thread, methinks.

 

We have 63 MPs, over 4,700 councillors, 12 MEPs, 17 members of the Scottish Parliament, 6 members of the Welsh Assembly and over 70,000 members - so clearly some people are taking us seriously. :rolleyes:

 

You forgot to list the number of councils you control. You also forgot to compare this list with those of both the Labour and Conservative parties - or is that too unfavourable?

 

Indidentally, if you think all Lib Dem policies are just wishful thinking, the independence of the Bank of England (widely credited with helping stabilise the economy over the past 10 years) was a Liberal and then a Lib Dem policy decades before New Labour finally introduced it.

 

I for one indeed think that Lib-Dem policies are wishful thinking, and nick2 neatly summed up why it is all wishful thinking - the Lib-dems are never going to run the country.

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50p tax rate for the rich is a good enough reason for me.

I think you're right, daftlad, and I didn't support that policy - but your timing is quite amusing.

 

We got rid of the 50p rate on Tuesday. :D

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5358422.stm

 

Got anything else?

 

They're never going to run the country?

Nick2 - let me tell you what the result of the General Election in December, 1910 was:

 

Liberal 274

Conservative 272

Labour 40

 

Eight years later, Labour became the official opposition. Eleven years after that, they were in power.

 

In the mid-1980s, the idea of the Liberal Party running even Liverpool Council was laughable. We've been in charge of it for eight years now.

 

"Never" is a word that can come back to bite you in politics. :P

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You forgot to list the number of councils you control. You also forgot to compare this list with those of both the Labour and Conservative parties - or is that too unfavourable?

What, you want me to do your job for you? :P

 

Liverpool and Newcastle we control outright, and we're either in power or the official opposition in practically every major city outside London - I don't think that's a record to be embarrassed about at all.

 

I did however forget to mention though that we were in first or second place in a record 252 seats at the last general election, including all six in Sheffield - thanks for the reminder. :D

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What, you want me to do your job for you? :P

 

Liverpool and Newcastle we control outright, and we're either in power or the official opposition in practically every major city outside London - I don't think that's a record to be embarrassed about at all.

 

I did however forget to mention though that we were in first or second place in a record 252 seats at the last general election, including all six in Sheffield - thanks for the reminder. :D

 

But there is a big difference between local and national politics. The rise in the number of Lib-Dem MPs in the last quarter century or so is largely due to the public dissatisfaction with one or other of the two main parties. When support for the two main parties is roughly equal, support for the Lib Dems tends to fall away. The Lib Dems seek to put forward an image of themselves as somehow fundamentally different, and nicer, than their main rivals. As all three parties now are seeking to occupy the centre ground and are putting forward much the same core policies, the first part of the image no longer applies. The grubby and nasty behaviour of leading Lib-Dem figures during last year's leadership contest strongly suggests that the second part of the image is also false.

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