Cyclone Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 The reason I think smacking occasionally is ok is because it is not anything like an adult giving another adult a thump. You're right its not. At least an adult is big enough to defend themselves or call the police. A child however is much smaller, unable to defend themselves and probably unaware of the fact that being hit would be illegal if they were an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Smacking children shouldn't be allowed, totally agree. However it is very effective if you have a problem neighbour. We had a neighbour who kept lighting fire in the middle of the day, stinking out the neighbourhood. I told him that 'lighting fires causes nosebleeds for some people'. He looked at me like I was a prat. 2 days later, up popped another fire, just as the wife had got the washing out This firebug recieved a nosebleed courtesy of my fist, result, no fires So smacking is very effective (never against children) How would you feel if a) You killed him (it can and does happen) b) You got arrested for assault ? Not surprised your neighbour looked at you like you were a prat, frankly - I don't like being threatened by bullies either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have smacked my own children on very rare occasions - and always felt dreadful afterwards. It's a terrible thing to do, a sign of failure and achieves nothing except perhaps to promote the notion that violence is an acceptable way to deal with conflict. There are other much more effective ways of disciplining children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Kids are like dogs, positive reinforcement works much better. I think you are only justified in smacking a child, if it is the final sanction when they have outwitted you. If they can't outwit you then there's no need to smack, as you can always find a better, non-violent way of disciplining them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Anyone see this last night, there was a woman who said being smacked had never done her anyharm, she then went on to list the string of convictions she had received prison sentences for. Or the three year old boy who got a smack every time his baby brother fell down, even though he was stood no where near him at the time. From what I can see the people on this programme who were proud of smacking their children were either idiots who couldn't control their tempers or overgrown bullies or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 It's actually more difficult with an animal. If you suspend walkie's priviledges or biscuits or whatever, by the time the punishment arrives they have no idea anymore why you're doing it, and because they don't talk you can't explain. Animal behaviour needs correcting immediately, children are smarter than animals from about the age of 3, so it should be easier to teach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymiss Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Anyone see this last night, there was a woman who said being smacked had never done her anyharm, she then went on to list the string of convictions she had received prison sentences for. Or the three year old boy who got a smack every time his baby brother fell down, even though he was stood no where near him at the time. From what I can see the people on this programme who were proud of smacking their children were either idiots who couldn't control their tempers or overgrown bullies or both. That's a bit of a narrow-minded judgement based on watching one programme. Which was probably biased from it's viewpoint so was edited accordingly. How can you really say whether you are better off for being smacked or not smacked? You have no idea what that woman has been through in life or what her mental state is to have influenced her crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 That's a bit of a narrow-minded judgement based on watching one programme. Which was probably biased from it's viewpoint so was edited accordingly. How can you really say whether you are better off for being smacked or not smacked? You have no idea what that woman has been through in life or what her mental state is to have influenced her crimes I'm not narrow minded, it's just common sense and I think that any research would back up the fact that smacking is not only ineffectual as a punishment, it is also damaging to children and just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymiss Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 You're right its not. At least an adult is big enough to defend themselves or call the police. A child however is much smaller, unable to defend themselves and probably unaware of the fact that being hit would be illegal if they were an adult. I disagree. The point is a smack is nothing a child should have to defend itself from! If it's that hard that it really hurt or the police would need calling then that's a beating in my opinion (and of course would be totally wrong). Obviously it should be used as a last resort and never done with any force. That's the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink fairy Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 The man from devon i found him queite scarry he was a bully and that women with the fryer thing they over smacked there kids. Give man his dues he did decide to stop smacking or bullying as he was. the women was a lost couse she was running boot camp. I think every now and again a smack does not hurt i knew if i got a smack when i was a child i had really wound my parnents up as it dint happen that offten. It did make me think i dont want to upset my parnents. Kids now adays have no respcet for anything or anyone parnents need to be alot stricter with kids and yes a smack will pull them in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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