Tony Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 If they're right behind you, glaring into your mirrors, half blinding you, you don't have much choice. It's disconcerting and distracting. OK yes, you can adjust your mirrors in various ways but then you dont have the proper angles you need. So, the problem is that you don't want to dip your rear view mirror, not that the car behind has lights that you think are too bright?
rubydazzler Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 So, the problem is that you don't want to dip your rear view mirror, not that the car behind has lights that you think are too bright? Obviously I must suffer from night blindness or something, do you think? Stop blaming the victim - just get em sorted, and save the rest of us the trouble of adjusting and re-adjusting our wing mirrors ... Actually, I was under the impression that having wrongly adjusted lights was a moving traffic offence?
Tony Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 My tall 4x4 with xenons has just had its MOT so it must be ok. I still get the (very) occasional flash from other drivers though. So, you tell me? In all seriousness, perhaps you do have night vision problems if it is such a big issue for you.
stackmonkey Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Ruby, I think Tony was trying to make the distinction between correctly adjusted, but very bright, xenon lights on dipped beam that to some may appear to be on full beam, and those driving around with 'normal' lights left on full beam. Whereas I think that you meant people shouldn't have to adjust mirrors to compensate for others' bad driving and lighting habits. Tony, I think Ruby meant wing mirrors (which don't have a 'dip' function) as well as the rear view.
stackmonkey Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 My tall 4x4 with xenons has just had its MOT so it must be ok. I still get the (very) occasional flash from other drivers though. So, you tell me? In all seriousness, perhaps you do have night vision problems if it is such a big issue for you. It depends on the car for me; In the Mondeo it's not so much a problem; in the TVR, off road-4x4 headlights tend to be at my eye height which exaggerates the glare effect, particularly in the wet and even more so when the vehicle behind is following too closely.
rubydazzler Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Ruby, I think Tony was trying to make the distinction between correctly adjusted, but very bright, xenon lights on dipped beam that to some may appear to be on full beam, and those driving around with 'normal' lights left on full beam. Whereas I think that you meant people shouldn't have to adjust mirrors to compensate for others' bad driving and lighting habits. Tony, I think Ruby meant wing mirrors (which don't have a 'dip' function) as well as the rear view. Thank you for mediating stackmonkey ... actually I think Tony just interposed the red herring about his 'newfangled lights' The OP was about people driving behind you and dazzling you with their full beams and/or fogs on ... as I understood it anyway. The xenon thing seems to be a bit off topic
Tony Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Hehe stackmonkey for UN Secretary General! I held off saying the next bit, bit it's appropriate to mention it now; My car has mirrors that dip automatically, including the wing mirrors which I think is a major part of why I never have a problem. (Well that and my owl-like night vision ) The technology will soon catch up with all new cars and as more and more cars have xenons people will simply get used to it. But, that still doesn't take away my basic point that I think there is a false perception of dazzle and also a lot of drivers with duff vision. How many people "don't like driving at night"? There's probably a good reason for that (poor vision) and they really should listen to the message from their senses and get somebody else to drive when it's dark. Thank you for mediating stackmonkey ... actually I think Tony just interposed the red herring about his 'newfangled lights' Err.. yes. Perhaps I have a little
Cyclone Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Deploying your james bond style oil slick/calltrops/rockets is one of the best deterrants I find. But you do have to refill the reservoir/pouch/launcher when you get home. Alternatively, have a passenger climb out through the sun roof, let the car behind come to close, and then leap across onto it. Hand onto the wipers whilst they try to shake you off, then smash your way in through the side window before pushing them out the door. Then dip the headlights.
rubydazzler Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 You just wanted us to know you have a tall 4x4 with flashy self adjusting to the terrain lights .... Whilst I, on the other hand, have a low slung foxy red bullet, and night blindness ... edit - now hysterical at Cyclone's last post ...
Cyclone Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 I'm still amused by this idea false perception of dazzle I had a false perception of a noise being too loud and hurting my ears in just the same way. I said it hurt, they said, "no, you're just thinking that it hurts, and when it stops it'll not feel like that anymore". If you perceive something, then that's how it is for you. It doesn't matter whether someone else perceives it differently.
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