Blair's Britain

[barny_100]

Nanny's Nazi State

 

It might be a throw away joke to say "Blair's Britain" but the "soft" brand of socialism he has presided over is now reaching the tipping point where we have to fight back. I for one will not put up with many more interfering government schemes.

 

Remember 1984?

 

The children, on the other hand, were systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy on them and report their deviations. The family had become in effect an extension of the Thought Police. It was a device by means of which everyone could be surrounded night and day by informers who knew him intimately.

 

 

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Nazi Germany, just like other totalitarian regimes, maintained its grip on power by encouraging members of the public to report every misdemeanour (thought, word and deed) perpetrated by fellow citizens against the state.

 

The result being that many used this a means of settling old scores and of enjoying, what so many humans really crave deep down in the darkest reaches of their soul, power over others.

 

Nanny has decided to revive this most reviled and disgusting tools of the state; this time she will be directing it against her pet hate, smokers.

 

Nanny has decreed that people, your friends neighbours and colleagues, should "shop" (snitch, grass up, inform, tell tales on etc) smokers in order to enforce her ban on lighting up in public places.

 

Nanny will set up a special 0800 number for members of the public to call with their tales of fellow citizens breaking Nanny's no smoking edict. The tip offs will be passed to town halls, when the ban comes into force next summer.

 

Colleagues will also be able to use the hotline to name individuals flouting the ban at work, and in other enclosed public places. That should make for a pleasant atmosphere at work.

 

Once duly "tipped off" environmental health officers will then launch surveillance operations and raids to catch pubs, clubs, restaurants or other venues that are illegally allowing smoking.

 

Can you believe this?

 

We live in a society where people are afraid of muggings, assaults, robberies and terrorism; yet the entire apparatus of the state is being directed towards catching smokers!

 

There is something very wrong with Nanny's priorities. There is also something offensive and evil about encouraging people to spy on each other.

 

Individuals who are duly entrapped by Nanny, will be fined £50 or £200 (if they refuse to pay immediately). Owners of premises allowing illegal smoking will face a fine of £2,500. Failure to display a no smoking sign results in a £200 on the spot fine or a £1,000 court fine.

 

The person who is spearheading Nanny's Nazi spy idea is health minister Andy Burnham, quote:

 

"Implementation of the ban from summer 2007 will mean that 99 per cent of employees will be working in a smoke-free environment.

 

We know from the experience of other countries that smoke-free legislation is largely self-enforcing.

 

However, we are proposing to introduce a smoke-free

 

compliance line as a supportive measure."

 

Nice to see that Nanny has come up with another effective method of destroying what little trust and respect people may have had left for their local councils, as it will be these bodies that receive the tips and then initiate the surveillance procedures.

 

It seems that the greatest enemy to the freedom of the people of Britain is the government and its second rate cousins in local government, not foreign terrorists.

 

The way to break Nanny’s control over us is to fight back. I suggest that when this Nazi Informant Line is set up, everyone inundates it with false reports naming members of the government and local councillors.

 

In the meantime, I suggest that we all drop Andy Burnham a note telling him what we think of living in a Nazi state.

 

 

Web contact details http://www.andyburnham.org

 

Fight back!

[BasilRathbon]

As I have recently become a sanctimonious, puritanical ex-smoker I'm quite looking forward to grassing up my colleagues who, due to fag breaks, work nearly an hour less a day than I do.....

[JoeP]

Barny_100 - please take a look at the parts of teh FAQs that deal with privacy.

 

We don't permit publishing people's phone numbers on here, especially when there is an incitement to harass that person.

 

Thanks.

[barny_100]

Fair enough - we can still email him though right

 

It's a sad day when a private site such as this has more respect for privacy (Although an MP like this should be exempt in my view) than our own government!

[Agent Orange]

Nothing like a smoker scorned

[Fareast]

I agree with most of what you say , Barney ---100 , especially being a keen smoker myself .

However , the anti-smoking regulations are only a small part of it .

We are more regulated , checked upon , watched , "computerised " and controlled than we have ever been in our history , in many different areas of our lives . And what a surprise that we are also more violent and anti-social ! People now are " followed " from the cradle to the grave by the Nosey-Parkers and Control Freaks and Box Tickers , as you point out , the very type of person who makes the Totalitarian Governments of this world work .

Every time a new rule or regulation from Westminster or Brussels is introduced , some people or some in the government will be able to justify it for " health " reasons or " security " reasons . Each individual law seems fairly innocuous but added together they seem overwhelming , in my view .

What is really sinister about it all , is that , if , in the future , we do wind up with an extreme Right wing government or an extreme Left wing one , it will be so easy for them to control everyone ; all the work will have been done for them !

I don't honestly , hold much hope out for freedom , in the near future . There are far too many people who are exactly like sheep and wouldn't stop watching Big Brother whilst stuffing in a McDonalds if there were an earthquake due in 5 seconds .

[shoeshine]

Nothing like a smoker scorned

 

I think barny_100 has a point which goes much deeper than the reference to smoking bans.

 

George Orwell's novel 1984 a brief introduction to it here deals with the idea of "Thought Police" and the enslavement of ordinary people in a horrific situation of dictatorship.

 

As a young man I always wondered if in my lifetime "1984" would become a reality.

 

It's almost here, believe it or not. Read the papers, watch the TV and you will see plans are well advanced within the "Nanny" State to enforce unquestionable allegiance to the Politically Correct Brigade.

 

If you can't see it......carry on sleepwalking into the hell of "1984".

[Agent Orange]

I think barny_100 has a point which goes much deeper than the reference to smoking bans.

 

George Orwell's novel 1984 a brief introduction to it here deals with the idea of "Thought Police" and the enslavement of ordinary people in a horrific situation of dictatorship.

 

As a young man I always wondered if in my lifetime "1984" would become a reality.

 

It's almost here, believe it or not. Read the papers, watch the TV and you will see plans are well advanced within the "Nanny" State to enforce unquestionable allegiance to the Politically Correct Brigade.

 

If you can't see it......carry on sleepwalking into the hell of "1984".

 

Yes, I'm familiar with 1984

[barny_100]

As has been said this is just an example - it's much more than stopping people smoking, it's telling people how to think and act.

 

I can't stand smoking, frankly it's disgusting. However if someone want's to smoke they are FREE to do so. If a hospital is made non-smoking (Obviously quite rightly) then they should not smoke there - this is not an infringement in their freedom as they are on someone else's property.

 

The smoking ban involves the government forcing various parties to do as they want. If a landlord wants to ban smoking they are free to, if a smoker wants to go to a specifically smoking pub they are free to, if I want to avoid smoky atmospheres I can choose to go to a smoke free bar etc.

 

Under the legislation the government is forcing all parties to do something against their will - this is illiberal and should only be done for issues that are widely agreed to be "right" e.g. You are not free to steal as it infringes peoples property rights.

[BasilRathbon]

The worrying thing is that so many people have been brainwashed by the media that they actually WANT to be more controlled.

You only have to look at the response from many people at the idea of having identity cards - "If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear".

Likewise how many people get these reward cards from shops which the company can use to monitor exactly what you buy and when, and think that because they're getting a measly few 'nectar points' or 'airmiles' in return that they're a good thing?