craigmason Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 A bit worrying that the BNP have scored so highly:loopy: Got to keep them out. no its not worrying what make's you say that its great news:thumbsup: just show how fed up people are with the three main parties
SpiderPete Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 I see the BNP members are out in full force on this thread. Shame they cannot answer questions posed to them on the BNP thread. Says alot really. LOL Anyway I have voted.
StarSparkle Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 You cannot believe how sickening it was to live and work through those years of Thatcherism. Every election we hoped for a turn in the tide, but they fell for the lies told by the tabloids owned by Murdoch. Year after year we saw our great industries reduced to rubble, and our rural comunities devastated. I am suprised your parents have not told you of the devastation caused to our country in those years. But then again some people fell for the lies they were told about this new world. All this will be forgotten about, Artisan, unless those of us who remember the destruction Thatcher wrought, remind people as often as we can about it. Sadly, the history of the 80s is already being re-written by those who benefitted from it - not taking into account what that woman and her doctored policies did to those who actually paid the price for it, with the loss of their communities and livelihoods and futures. The Tories destroyed this country in the 80s - leaving it the 3rd world sweatshop it is now. StarSparkle
English Glory Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 All this will be forgotten about, Artisan, unless those of us who remember the destruction Thatcher wrought, remind people as often as we can about it. Sadly, the history of the 80s is already being re-written by those who benefitted from it - not taking into account what that woman and her doctored policies did to those who actually paid the price for it, with the loss of their communities and livelihoods and futures. The Tories destroyed this country in the 80s - leaving it the 3rd world sweatshop it is now. StarSparkle Hilarious. Most people can acknowledge the good she did for Britain, or at least get over themselves enough to see that her stubborness actually created the wealth we enjoy today. Working men's clubs are dropping by the dozen whilst the people who live in the areas have enjoyed superb growth with a much healthier populace living there. Your views are in the minority, and whatever you think about the Tories the majority of the nation has gotten over it once the facts of never-ending growth came into being in the nineties. Just like they did with Labour and the appalling socialist regime which cost Britain dear in the seventies. Alas, the socialists didn't create such a long-term platform of growth like Thatcher did... merely misery.
sccsux Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 For the last 4 general elections I've "spoiled" my paper:thumbsup:. Going green next time though .
donuticus Posted September 10, 2006 Author Posted September 10, 2006 You cannot believe how sickening it was to live and work through those years of Thatcherism. Every election we hoped for a turn in the tide, but they fell for the lies told by the tabloids owned by Murdoch. Year after year we saw our great industries reduced to rubble, and our rural comunities devastated. I am suprised your parents have not told you of the devastation caused to our country in those years. But then again some people fell for the lies they were told about this new world. Sorry my comment may have come across as rather flippant and offensive it was not meant like this. I was born in Sutton Coldfield in Birmingham which is a very strong Conservative constituency. I dont know what it was like her during Mrs Thatchers reign. It does however, as mentioned in a previous post, surprise me that the Conservatives are polling so high at (what appears) to be the Lib Dems cost.
upholder Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 At the time of posting this... Labour 26.39% Conservative 22.22% BNP 19.44%
Bartfarst Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 I'd vote Green because I believe in their policies, but also because I don't generally believe in large political parties. Politics is rotten, and much of this is down to the current first-past-the-post system. The end result is a house of parliament full of people who slavishly follow the party line on parliamentary bills and opposition MPs who automatically vote against the government on almost anything, as opposed to voting how their conscience tells them to. If you don't vote how you're supposed to then you'll never make a cabinet or shadow cabinet post, and most MPs are too scared to rock the boat. If there were more independent or small party MPs then it would solve this problem, as people could vote with their conscience and you'd actually get politicians doing what's right for the country. Proportional representation would have the same effect, but that'll never happen. The two main parties would never vote for a scheme that'd give them less MPs in parliament. That all makes sense. I read a Green party manifesto a few years ago – curious to see whether they followed their general ethos with common sense policies. Goodness no. The main gist of their manifesto was that the welfare state is demeaning for those who live on benefits, and that every UK resident should have the right to a reasonable standard of living without the stigma of being a doley scumbag. They would solve this by paying every UK resident a ‘minimum wage’ figure from central government funds, and fund this in turn by high levels of taxation on the money that people make from working. I had to read it several times to confirm that I wasn’t imagining it – can you imagine, considering the problems we have at present with the 2 or 3 million work-shy parasites on benefits, just how bad the situation would be if they were paid more and didn’t even have to sign on? Utter madness, and from that moment on I have not been able to take the Greens seriously. Despite being a paid up member of the Conservative Party, I would vote BNP if there were a remote chance of my vote putting one of their contenders in Parliament. For me, the crises of immigration and failed multiculturalism are this country's greatest problems, and I want a government that puts an immediate halt on immigration, deports those who are here illegally or won’t integrate, and insists on every British citizen speaking English.
donuticus Posted September 10, 2006 Author Posted September 10, 2006 That all makes sense. I read a Green party manifesto a few years ago – curious to see whether they followed their general ethos with common sense policies. Goodness no. The main gist of their manifesto was that the welfare state is demeaning for those who live on benefits, and that every UK resident should have the right to a reasonable standard of living without the stigma of being a doley scumbag. They would solve this by paying every UK resident a ‘minimum wage’ figure from central government funds, and fund this in turn by high levels of taxation on the money that people make from working. I had to read it several times to confirm that I wasn’t imagining it – can you imagine, considering the problems we have at present with the 2 or 3 million work-shy parasites on benefits, just how bad the situation would be if they were paid more and didn’t even have to sign on? Utter madness, and from that moment on I have not been able to take the Greens seriously. Despite being a paid up member of the Conservative Party, I would vote BNP if there were a remote chance of my vote putting one of their contenders in Parliament. For me, the crises of immigration and failed multiculturalism are this country's greatest problems, and I want a government that puts an immediate halt on immigration, deports those who are here illegally or won’t integrate, and insists on every British citizen speaking English. *hushed heir/air (unsure which is correct) of reverence" He's back. The prodigal son returns from (another) ban. Dont often agree with you but the forum is without doubt all the more entertaining when you are around.
StarSparkle Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Hilarious. Most people can acknowledge the good she did for Britain, or at least get over themselves enough to see that her stubborness actually created the wealth we enjoy today. Working men's clubs are dropping by the dozen whilst the people who live in the areas have enjoyed superb growth with a much healthier populace living there. Your views are in the minority, and whatever you think about the Tories the majority of the nation has gotten over it once the facts of never-ending growth came into being in the nineties. Just like they did with Labour and the appalling socialist regime which cost Britain dear in the seventies. Alas, the socialists didn't create such a long-term platform of growth like Thatcher did... merely misery. I'm glad the thought of other people's suffering causes you such hilarity Perhaps the BNP is the correct party for you.... Wealth we enjoy today? Where's that when it's at home? The superstructure of the country is on its last legs; the NHS is at crisis point yet again; the housing market is so distorted that people on above average wages cannot afford to buy their own home; many of the people who are lucky enough to be in a job that's not a McJob, are still only employed on 3 year contracts, or less; the level of credit card debt is too frightening for anyone to seriously think about; no-one realistically expects there will still be old-age pensions in a decade or two's time, etc. Thatcher destroyed this country and left it a shadow of its former self. What was left has since been sold off to international capital. You may find that hilarious; I find it tragic. StarSparkle
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