General Election

[taxman]

Boring consensus Politians get in because the vast majority of people want boring consensus policies.

 

An extra pound in the pocket here and there, an extra £50 on their tax code every year its only people on the extreme spectrum, left or right, who want upheaval.

 

Face it, no-one gives a toss! as long as they are slightly better off and crime only happens to other people we will always vote for the Status Quo.

 

Sad but true

[artisan]

Boring consensus Politians get in because the vast majority of people want boring consensus policies.

 

An extra pound in the pocket here and there, an extra £50 on their tax code every year its only people on the extreme spectrum, left or right, who want upheaval.

 

Face it, no-one gives a toss! as long as they are slightly better off and crime only happens to other people we will always vote for the Status Quo.

 

Sad but true

I would have thought these days they would have gone for the Arctic Monkeys

[royjames]

Boring consensus Politians get in because the vast majority of people want boring consensus policies.

 

An extra pound in the pocket here and there, an extra £50 on their tax code every year its only people on the extreme spectrum, left or right, who want upheaval.

 

Face it, no-one gives a toss! as long as they are slightly better off and crime only happens to other people we will always vote for the Status Quo.

 

Sad but true

 

I am sorry to say it but your probably right.

[taxman]

I am sorry to say it but your probably right.

 

Whey Hey, we do agree on something!!

[plekhanov]

I thought this thread was about the general election and NOT the BNP thread:loopy:

I'm confused Roy, I would have thought that as an aspiring BNP politician you'd be keen to give your parties policies all the publicity you can, why is it then that instead of joining in the debate and singing the praises of your party's assorted delusional, fascistic policies you are trying to shut the debate down.?

 

Why are you so scared of open debate?

[happyhippy]

I thought this thread was about the general election and NOT the BNP thread:loopy:

 

I said this earlier, and as you know Roy, I hardly share your political stance, but wait a second .......

 

So maybe we can get back on topic,now when the election does come we will be faced with the main parties all trying to occupy the so called center ground,you know the bit that is supposed to win you elections.

You have little choice in the general election because the system we have is sided with the big 2 and you can bet your bottom dollar they ain't going to give it up.

The end result is the general election will disen franchise millions of voters and so its no wonder people are not even bothering to vote.

And lets not forget the election is fought in an un even way because the main parties have their donors who invest millions of pounds and at the same time the smaller parties have to struggle on very meager means indeed.

Hardly fair is it? the truth is we dont have real democracy we have a sort of democracy which depends on your financial muscle.

Democracy,dont make me laugh.

 

Now I will make a confession here. I have always said that my vote, or spoilt vote is between me and the ballot box.

 

But I'll divulge. I'm a Green party (supporter, and voter, had I the chance to do it), and in several elections have voted Lib Dem as they were the only party who came close to my point of view. In time, I decided that by voting for a party which really wasn't most aligned truly to my beliefs was wrong, so given no choice, I now spoil my paper.

 

In SO many ways I disagree with royjames, but he is right here, in my opinion. The voices of so many, left or right, are suppressed by the ridiculous voting system we have. For a true democracy, we need a system of Proportional Representation, with two elected chambers.

[redrobbo]

I said this earlier, and as you know Roy, I hardly share your political stance, but wait a second .......

 

 

 

Now I will make a confession here. I have always said that my vote, or spoilt vote is between me and the ballot box.

 

But I'll divulge. I'm a Green party (supporter, and voter, had I the choice to do it), and in several elections have voted Lib Dem as they were the only party who came close to my point of view. In time, I decided that by voting for a party which really wasn't most aligned truly to my beliefs was wrong, so given no choice, I now spoil my paper.

 

In SO many ways I disagree with royjames, but he is right here, in my opinion. The voices of so many, left or right, are suppressed by the ridiculous voting system we have. For a true democracy, we need a system of Proportional Representation, with two elected chambers.

 

It may surprise some, but royjames and I have previously discovered that we have one thing on which we do agree...... the need for proportionmal representation in our voting system.

 

The current first past the post voting system is perhaps suitable in an age of two party politics - but that age has long since disappeared in the UK. We now have a plethora of political parties, and in Sheffield, four parties now regularly contest every council ward (Conservative, Labour, Liber-Democrat and Green). Single issue candidates now get elected to Parliament (there are currently 2 Independent MPs i the Houe of Commons).

The results of first past the post does not reflect the voting intentions. A change in the voting system to proportional representation would probably encourage more people to vote.

[AtticusFinch]

It may surprise some, but royjames and I have previously discovered that we have one thing on which we do agree...... the need for proportionmal representation in our voting system.

 

The current first past the post voting system is perhaps suitable in an age of two party politics - but that age has long since disappeared in the UK. We now have a plethora of political parties, and in Sheffield, four parties now regularly contest every council ward (Conservative, Labour, Liber-Democrat and Green). Single issue candidates now get elected to Parliament (there are currently 2 Independent MPs i the Houe of Commons).

The results of first past the post does not reflect the voting intentions. A change in the voting system to proportional representation would probably encourage more people to vote.

 

Do you really believe that Labour would try to introduce a system that would give them less seats at general elections? The reason that we don't have proportional representation is because it would take a parliamentary vote to introduce it, and Labour and the Conservatives would never vote for it because it wouldn't be in their interests. It'd be like turkeys voting for christmas.

[StarSparkle]

Face it, no-one gives a toss! as long as they are slightly better off and crime only happens to other people we will always vote for the Status Quo.

 

Sad but true

 

Sadly I think you're right - I'm all right Jack is alive and flourishing as always

 

I abhor and despise the attitude of I'm ok, so the rest of you can go to hell, but most people seem to live by it.

 

I think a lot of it is lack of imagination, people don't stop and think it could be them in need of a hand one day.

 

StarSparkle