pitsmoorlad Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Yesterday people's routines were thrown into chaos because the teachers had a "Baker Day" on the first day of term. Now forgive me if I seem a bit cynical but they've just had 6 weeks in which to have a bloody Baker Day. Are the education bosses taking the p1$$ here. Given that they must have about 10 weeks holiday a year you'd think that they'd be considerate enough to give up a day here and there so that parents wouldn't have to use up parts of their 4 weeks holiday per year. And I know that it's not the teachers' fault, but the powers that be who make the decisions. I just wonder what the teachers would say if they were asked, "are you willing to have a Baker Day on the last day of the 6 weeks holiday rather than the first day of term?" They never had them when I were a lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.P Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 They have had two at some schools, my eldests back tomorrow. The youngest went back to nursery monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Yesterday people's routines were thrown into chaos because the teachers had a "Baker Day" on the first day of term. Now forgive me if I seem a bit cynical but they've just had 6 weeks in which to have a bloody Baker Day. would you be happy to come in to work on an annual leave day? Are the education bosses taking the p1$$ here. Given that they must have about 10 weeks holiday a year you'd think that they'd be considerate enough to give up a day here and there so that parents wouldn't have to use up parts of their 4 weeks holiday per year. teachers are probably one ofthleast well paid jobs that doesn't end at the end of the shift - a large proportion of thesummer break will have been taken up with preparatory work for this year, and thesohrter holidays often end up as catch up periods ... And I know that it's not the teachers' fault, but the powers that be who make the decisions. I just wonder what the teachers would say if they were asked, "are you willing to have a Baker Day on the last day of the 6 weeks holiday rather than the first day of term?" They never had them when I were a lad. unsuprisingly they would want their pay adjusted to reflect the loss of a leave day ... and continuning professional development is a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 they never had them when i was a lad - but the "Baker Day" named after the guy who introduced it i think - is job training allegedly.i use allegedly 'cos i can't remember the reason stated when i was a teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 no disrespect here to pitsmoorlad,but some points raised do actually, give an indication of some of the key issues at schools today. teachers dont have 10 weeks holiday - the kids do. the days are usually tagged onto holidays - they could break up the school term & have them mid week. the teachers are at work during the school holidays in some form, and in the evening when 9-5 workers are sat watching tv. they dont earn as much as a lot of the parents,but they have to take their children away during peak periods.how would parents like it if teachers picked their vacations during the cheaper parts of the year. school is not a free babysitting service.if parents don't want to use holiday days to look after their own children then don't have kids. my wife and i went 6 years without a holiday so that we could use our holiday days to ensure we looked after our daughter, usually seperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic_rat Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 would you be happy to come in to work on an annual leave day? teachers are probably one ofthleast well paid jobs that doesn't end at the end of the shift - a large proportion of thesummer break will have been taken up with preparatory work for this year, and thesohrter holidays often end up as catch up periods ... unsuprisingly they would want their pay adjusted to reflect the loss of a leave day ... and continuning professional development is a bad thing? Are you a teacher by any chance Zippy? Ever had a proper job? The friends I have who are teachers and have had proper jobs realise that although the work is hard it is no harder than working in the private sector and it has far greater benefits, such as protected pensions and those 12 weeks off a year. I go into schools to give talks and I am constantly surprised at how unprepared and unprofessional some teachers are....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Are you a teacher by any chance Zippy? Ever had a proper job? The friends I have who are teachers and have had proper jobs realise that although the work is hard it is no harder than working in the private sector and it has far greater benefits, such as protected pensions and those 12 weeks off a year. I go into schools to give talks and I am constantly surprised at how unprepared and unprofessional some teachers are....... so only teachers have protected pensions? i visit corporate/legal professionals & private individuals every day , you'd be surprised how unprepared & unprofessional they all can be. when was the last time a teacher swore during a converstaion with you? i meet MD's every week who use profanity during a conversation. it's a fact of life - some organisations & people aren't organised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 When my son was 7 we moved back to Sheffield from Ross on Wye and he had to start at his new school. He was very nervous but bravely carried his new He-Man lunch box down the road, walking a couple of steps in front of me to make sure he didn't look like a baby holding is mum's hand. Oh we must be early I thought as we walked in through the school gates with very few people around - well no one around actually (other than the caretaker sweeping the drive who told us it was a Baker day and the lessons started tomorrow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox20thc Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 The baker day is a teacher training day. Thankfully my darlings went back to school this morning. Littlest nervous because big brother won't be around Oldest starting his first day at secondary. And yes I took a photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I think there is something wrong with the midset of many teachers in many schools. It always used to be the case that teachers did preparation and marking on top of a full school week. One of the many huge improvements to schools made by the labour government was to introduce far more cover and time away from the classroom for teachers so they could prepare properly. Unfortunately I know of several examples of where this has been taken to extremese with teachers demanding cover before they have even a very short meeting at lunchtime. If teachers want to be regarded as professionals then their inductry needs further reforms and in particular they need to get rid of their 1970's union attitudes to their time and salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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