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Will the Super Casino go to Sheffield?


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I wouldn't want the super casino to be located in Sheffield, but it's purely rhetorical anyway as it's already a done deal that it'll be in the Millennium Dome. Philip Anschutz wouldn't have hosted John Prescott at his ranch if Prescott wasn't capable of swinging the decision his way. The fact that construction work has already started there prior to the decision being made is proof of this.

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Just for the record - the airport was the idea of a quango, and the Museum of Popular Music was funded by a lottery bid.

 

Do we decry the folk who put a bet on the horses, or visit the dogs at Owlerton stadium? Do we decry the regular weekly bingo devotees, or the punters who already place their bets in our existing casinos (... yes we already have casinos in Sheffield - there's one on Queens Road, near to where I live)? Do we not buy weekly scratch cards and a lottery ticket at the supermarket check-out, or the occasional book of raffle tickets for a good cause? Gambling is for most people a regular occurance in their lives. If adults wish to participate in gambling, and the UK is to get a super casino, why shouldn't we bid for it to be built in Sheffield?

 

Our central geographic position, and good road links puts us within easy reach of loads of punters. That 3 separate bids are being made for Sheffield shows that there is keen interest in Sheffield being the ideal location for a super casino. We'd be daft not to seek an additional attraction for folk to visit our city.

 

I know we have casinos, etc. in Sheffield - I have a personal issue with gambling but if people want to gamble, good luck to them. The ethics and morality is another issue that I deliberately chose not to raise here, as it's a personal issue. However, when something like this happens, those of us who DON'T want to gamble have to live with teh consequences, which is what I'm concerned about. There is a large difference between the curerntly licensed, relatively small affairs and the Leviathan we'd be getting.

 

I don't particulrly like the idea of a large, economically distorting and potentially socially damaging institution washing up here.

 

Fair do's on the Airport and Museum; my mistake.

 

However, I'm hoping that my concerns on the issues with regard to the casino that I raised will be tackled or explained to us by the Council. Why do I doubt that this will happen?

 

Once it's established it will no doubt start getting the televised poker tournaments and the like thus raising Sheffield's profile even more.

 

Well, that's something to be proud of in your city. Televised poker. Ai Caramba.

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Another stupid idea so they build it in London 160 miles away and nowhere else in the country as got one, I personally cannot see why all the contenders for the super casino cant build wherever they like let market forces apply.another classic case of a nanny state, the goverment say we can have one where they decide a load of b***s.

If we can only have one built then the logic is that it should be in the geographical centre of the country. Then the argument for Sheffield having it becomes a reality not just a pipe dream. PERSONALLY I dont think it will be built at the DOME because of all the negative publicity over the last few months. Having said that a million people marched through London about the Iraqi war and that did,nt stop that did it. This country is being run by people only concerned in there ideas and joe public has no got a chance. PRESCOTT

BLAIR WHAT A JOKE.

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Well, that's something to be proud of in your city. Televised poker. Ai Caramba.

 

My point was that having events in Sheffield on television raises the profile of the city - the fact that it would be poker is just about irrelevant.

 

People who don't want to drink have to live with the consequences of having licensed premises in the city, it's part of life so they deal with it.

 

You obviously have issues with the idea of gambling and that's fine but just because you don't agree does that mean we shouldn't let all the people who want to gamble have the opportunity to do it in the best casino in the UK and thus rob the city of a fine chance of creating lots of investment and raising it's profile?

 

And yes I probably should have put some punctuation into that last sentence :)

 

As I say it's not something I'd be really that bothered about using myself apart from maybe the odd punt but I think it is one of the best opporunities this city has had in a long time.

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I would hope that we never get any new casinos anywhere at all, let alone Sheffield. However, it is too late to stop this happening somewhere so why not here?

 

My main objection to big new fancy casinos is that they will make gambling an acceptable form of recreation. In the same way as people now think "shall I go to the cinema tonight", they may think " shall I go to the cinema or to the casino". If it really will bring 14,000 new jobs then it must mean that vast numbers of people, mostly from within easy travelling distance along the M1, will spend huge amounts of money. A fair chunk of that money will make its way to the USA and the local jobs created will be at the lower end of the payscale.

 

The Dome was situated in a very stupid location which made it difficult for most people in Northern Britain to visit. This then seems an ideal location to put a new casino as it will mean that less money makes its way from areas of the country least able to pay.

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Gambling already is an acceptable form of recreation. That came about a long time ago when bookmakers were allowed to open up there windows and they stopped being the smoke filled dens they were once were. The majority of this countries betting shops are actually nicely presented and very welcoming. Many people use them just to have a go on the numbers games like the Irish Lottery and otherwise have no interest in the evil that is gambling as some people seem to think.

 

But you're right Ken in that the super casino is going to be built somewhere so we may as well have it. Even if we don't get the big one there are or were plans to have smaller regional casinos but this has been changed that often that I'm not sure how it currently stands.

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Gambling already is an acceptable form of recreation. That came about a long time ago when bookmakers were allowed to open up there windows and they stopped being the smoke filled dens they were once were. The majority of this countries betting shops are actually nicely presented and very welcoming. Many people use them just to have a go on the numbers games like the Irish Lottery and otherwise have no interest in the evil that is gambling as some people seem to think.

 

But you're right Ken in that the super casino is going to be built somewhere so we may as well have it. Even if we don't get the big one there are or were plans to have smaller regional casinos but this has been changed that often that I'm not sure how it currently stands.

 

I don't think you are right about betting shops at all. I would never go into one and the ones I see seem to have chavs going in and out blowing their dole money. It may well be that some are nicer than they used to be but this will be nothing compared to the incredibly welcoming atmosphere of a super casino. I have had the misfortune to visit some large casinos in Las Vegas and I would like them to stay there.

 

The argument in favour of a casino in Sheffield would be that it will create a large number of jobs and help put the city on the map. I can see this side of the argument although I susect it will put Sheffield on the map in the same way that Meadowhall did or even just be seen as an extension of the shopping centre. I am sure that having Meadowhall in (near?) Sheffield is much better than having it 20 miles down the road so people still don't use the city centre. The same can be said of the super casino, if we have to have one eventually then we may as well have the biggest and have it where we benefit from it. I don't think that either of these examples do much for the reputation of Sheffield unless it wants to be seen as an old Steel town with lots of cheap workers, a gambling problem, and shopping as the only recreation.

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My point was that having events in Sheffield on television raises the profile of the city - the fact that it would be poker is just about irrelevant.

 

People who don't want to drink have to live with the consequences of having licensed premises in the city, it's part of life so they deal with it.

 

You obviously have issues with the idea of gambling and that's fine but just because you don't agree does that mean we shouldn't let all the people who want to gamble have the opportunity to do it in the best casino in the UK and thus rob the city of a fine chance of creating lots of investment and raising it's profile?

 

And yes I probably should have put some punctuation into that last sentence :)

 

As I say it's not something I'd be really that bothered about using myself apart from maybe the odd punt but I think it is one of the best opporunities this city has had in a long time.

 

Yeah, it'll give Calendar and Look North something to report on.. I can see it now "Now we have a report on the new Super Casino in Sheffield, we bring you now an exclusive report from our Correspondent in Leeds" :D

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But you're right Ken in that the super casino is going to be built somewhere so we may as well have it. Even if we don't get the big one there are or were plans to have smaller regional casinos but this has been changed that often that I'm not sure how it currently stands.

 

I think we should either get the ONLY supercasino, or no casino at all. If we just get one of the smaller casino's, it won't attract other people to the city so much.

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