Who broke Woodseats?

[Anna B]

Just now, RollingJ said:

And your solution?

I'll give it some thought, and get back to you.

[RollingJ]

Just now, Anna B said:

I'll give it some thought, and get back to you.

You would make an excellent MP, with that response.

[ECCOnoob]

42 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Chesterfield Road onwards is certainly not fit for purpose as a main artery road into Sheffield. 

It needs a dual carriageway at the very least.

 

But people already have that option. Certainly those are the upper end of chesterfield road / woodseats do.

 

They could go up to meadowhead joining the purpose-built 40mph dual carriageway which connects to City Road or even directly onto the 50mph Parkway and into into the city.  

 

Nobody is forcing them to wiggle through the slower, narrower, more congested, suburbs and residential streets. 

 

Would you like to live in a residential area continually carved up by multiple 4/5 lane  dual carriageways everywhere?

 

Generally, the whole purpose of a ring road  system is to get the bulk of the traffic off the smaller streets and flowing around the city.

[bassett one]

Theres 2 problems with meadowhead idea firstly the roundabout ,but if you go via city road your mileage is considerably increased, using more petrol that does not help the planet and you get stuck in traffic from townend to city road. theres been millions spent on woodseats traffic problem ,its back to the main problem to many vehicles on the road but we dont even have a tram to help relieve the problem.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, bassett one said:

Theres 2 problems with meadowhead idea firstly the roundabout ,but if you go via city road your mileage is considerably increased, using more petrol that does not help the planet and you get stuck in traffic from townend to city road. theres been millions spent on woodseats traffic problem ,its back to the main problem to many vehicles on the road but we dont even have a tram to help relieve the problem.

Actually, @bassett one, a tram would probably exacerbate the problem - firstly its construction and secondly the fact they get 'priority' and slow down traffic flow.

[Stannington Lad]

I don't know what the answer is to be honest, unless they build a new bypass, but where would it go?  Even the Bochum Parkway is chocca. Ditto North of the city with Penistone Road. 

[Vrsaljko]

2 hours ago, RollingJ said:

Actually, @bassett one, a tram would probably exacerbate the problem - firstly its construction and secondly the fact they get 'priority' and slow down traffic flow.

 

Yeah, it would be absolute carnage if they tried to to extend the tram through Woodseats. One set of temporary traffic lights brought the area to a standstill this week 😂. I don't think the road through Woodseats is even wide enough to accommodate the tram either, especially between the police station up to the KFC where the road opens up a bit.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, Vrsaljko said:

I don't think the road through Woodseats is even wide enough to accommodate the tram either, especially between the police station up to the KFC where the road opens up a bit.

It isn't.

[ECCOnoob]

4 hours ago, bassett one said:

Theres 2 problems with meadowhead idea firstly the roundabout ,but if you go via city road your mileage is considerably increased, using more petrol that does not help the planet and you get stuck in traffic from townend to city road. theres been millions spent on woodseats traffic problem ,its back to the main problem to many vehicles on the road but we dont even have a tram to help relieve the problem.

 

Neither does having cars sat in traffic idling for hours a week.  It could be argued that a car going an extra mile or so but keeping a constant higher speed and not sat idling or stop starting every 5 seconds might overall be better for the environment.

 

Besides, the point I was making in response to the other poster was that there already is a massive dual carriageway system nearby which people could use.   Simply ploughing through people's residential streets and building another one isn't the answer.  

Edited December 8, 2024 by ECCOnoob

[Vrsaljko]

47 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

Besides, the point I was making in response to the other poster was that there already is a massive dual carriageway system nearby which people could use. 

 

There is, but I don't think it's practical for a lot of people, and it depends where you live. Let's say you work in town and live in Woodseats and you're travelling home. If you go up City Road to the ring road and around the dual carriageway to Meadowhead roundabout, you've then got to crawl down Meadowhead and through Woodseats which are both full of traffic at peak times. You might as well just go up Chesterfield Road and crawl through Woodseats, which also doesn't involve going well out of your way to begin with. You'd basically be swapping going through Woodseats for going through Meadowhead AND Woodseats, which are often as bad as each other.