Mental health crisis Sheffield

[pfifes]

14 minutes ago, SheffieldForum said:

I walked across a field at Wadsley Church a few times wondering why the graveyard wasn't extended over it.

 

Then I saw the stone:

 

 

Kind of makes you think about what people thought of the patients at the South Yorkshire Asylum (Middlewood Hospital).

But sadly, what happens to the remains of those mentally ill that were homeless and deceased on the street?

[Mister M]

29 minutes ago, NicolaJayne said:

 they  were not looked after  they  were routinely abused  

 they  were routinely given incorrect doses of medication  

The Mental hospitals  were by and large   decrepit , often falling down  and  dehumanising   warehouses 

as i stated  before it  is clear you have little  understanding o of this topic. 

I agree with you.

While Care In The Community in many cases was handled very badly, I'm not one to look back on the old days of mental asylums as some kind of panacea. There were some terrible abuses which happened to patients in these places, truly awful. Female patients being raped, patients were bullied and tormented by other patients and some staff, little notice taken of patient's wants and needs, and little in the way of therapeutics. 

I remember when the asylum closed in the late 1980s in the town I grew up in, ex patients would congregate in the bus station confused, and with nowhere communal to go. 

I always remember in response to the call for the creation of staffed community centres for those discharged from long stays in asylums, a local health chief saying the problem historically was people had become institutionalised, but that creating community centres for those turfed out of asylums would just create more dependency. Truly appalling all round.

 

I think what's needed are respite centres, crisis houses, and much more in the way of prevention.

[pfifes]

Just because there were some poor Mental Asylums it doesn’t mean they were all bad and we don’t need them.  The insane do not belong on the streets. 

[pfifes]

There is an interesting article about bringing back Mental Asylums here https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/26/bring-back-asylums-and-make-britain-safe-again/

Apparently Trump is planning to bring them back in the USA too.

[hackey lad]

I know I’m being picky but I think calling them Asylums is wrong . All my life Middlewood was known as a mental hospital. 

[pfifes]

1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

I know I’m being picky but I think calling them Asylums is wrong . All my life Middlewood was known as a mental hospital. 

The Telegraph article refers to them as Asylums.  As did Trump.

[hackey lad]

1 minute ago, pfifes said:

The Telegraph article refers to them as Asylums.  As did Trump.

That’s ok then 

[pfifes]

6 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

That’s ok then 

Middlewood Mental Hospital was originally called South Yorkshire Lunatic Asylum.

[NicolaJayne]

2 hours ago, pfifes said:

Just because there were some poor Mental Asylums it doesn’t mean they were all bad and we don’t need them.  The insane do not belong on the streets. 

there were no good County Pauper lunatic Asylums. 

your language use and your  clear lack of  knowledge on this topic  is  now simply becming a matter  where you embarass and humiliate yourself  by reveling in ignorance 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation gives a reasonable summary anda   a bibiliography of  the literaure on  just what was so problematic with the Long Stay institutions 

please define 'insane' here ? 

as those who pose a  genuinerisk to themselves  or others are  detained under the Mental health Act 

[pfifes]

1 minute ago, NicolaJayne said:

there were no good County Pauper lunatic Asylums. 

your language use and your  clear lack of  knowledge on this topic  is  now simply becming a matter  where you embarass and humiliate yourself  by reveling in ignorance 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation gives a reasonable summary anda   a bibiliography of  the literaure on  just what was so problematic with the Long Stay institutions 

please define 'insane' here ? 

as those who pose a  genuinerisk to themselves  or others are  detained under the Mental health Act 

Insane:

1. not sane; not of sound mind; mentally deranged.

   Synonyms: irrational, foolish, maniacal, crazy, crazed, lunatic, demented

2. of, relating to, or characteristic of a person who is mentally deranged: