Public Transport Vs. Heart Of The City Ii

[Irene Swaine]

15 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

They obviously used cash, but not having to have massive floats, cash offices, people to count, bag and transport it to banks are benefits to their operations - and more secure.

It results in job losses, loss of business and profit when the system goes down, incurs transaction fees, means no tipping for hospitality staff and slows down the payment process when cards decline.

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, YorkieontheTyne said:

ECCOnoob. A T key is just a t shaped tool with a square end used for unlocking inspection flaps etc. In the old days on the buses they were referred to as a coach key. A 5 year old could operate one. Apparently some people have to be trained.

Fair comment RollingJ. I was just giving WarPig another option.

T key = Allen key with a  T handle . 

[RollingJ]

2 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

It results in job losses, loss of business and profit when the system goes down, incurs transaction fees, means no tipping for hospitality staff and slows down the payment process when cards decline.

As business practices change job losses occur in all businesses, but other opportunities present themselves - the last 'big' organisation I worked for, the 'office staff' fell from 14 to 2, but no-one actually lost their job, they were redeployed elsewhere in the company. Cash incurs transaction/banking fees.

 

How often do systems actually go down  severely enough to cause appreciable loss of business/profit.

 

I still give cash 'tips' if I think they are deserved, and always decline the 'optional' service charge on a bill.

[Meltman]

16 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

It results in job losses, loss of business and profit when the system goes down, incurs transaction fees, means no tipping for hospitality staff and slows down the payment process when cards decline.

When a system goes down as you put it then it doesn't matter what you would like to pay with....you can't! A recent example of a supermarket system going 'down', , no card readers and no tills. The staff couldn't take cash if they wanted to as they couldn't press the buttons on the tills...and they couldn't do it in their own head.

[ECCOnoob]

48 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

 

Cash only is not dodgy. How do you think businesses got by 20 years ago before these card readers were invented?

20 years ago. Are you having a laugh?  

 

Electronic payment terminals have been around since the late 70s. IBM and NCR even developed cash registers which could automatically process card payments and deduct funds from bank accounts commonplace by the mid 80s.  

 

Even before that, the world was using cheques and bank transfers since the 1800s.

 

Talking out of your posterior once again.

[Resident]

2 hours ago, YorkieontheTyne said:

ECCOnoob. A T key is just a t shaped tool with a square end used for unlocking inspection flaps etc. In the old days on the buses they were referred to as a coach key. A 5 year old could operate one. Apparently some people have to be trained.

Fair comment RollingJ. I was just giving WarPig another option.

In Irene's case it gave her access to crew only storage. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Irene Swaine said:

Transport workers form alliances. The train company I worked for is also a well renowned bus operator

Which are run as separate entities with zero overlap until you get WAY above the level of a local managing director nevermind a trolley dolly

[BigAl1]

15 hours ago, AndrewC said:

Genuinely not trying to be antagonistic here, merely curious - to what end is someone doing this? If the bus/tram is coming back that way anyway on the return from the terminus?

 

Is this to get out of the elements, i.e. raining/cold etc., and not wanting to wait?

Very simple. In my case tram. If it is cold and wet and windy and I know the next tram is in 10 minutes and that the one going in the opposite direction will be that tram then sitting in the warm tram if far preferable to waiting in the cold and wet. 

[Irene Swaine]

10 hours ago, hackey lad said:

T key = Allen key with a  T handle . 

Wrong. Completely wrong.

[Annie Bynnol]

   The 'T key' is  the railway version of the Swiss Army knife. Called carriage, bell and heater key. I had my grandmothers(LNWR 1917), my mothers (LMS 1941)and my grandfather in laws(probably L&YR). Each end and the middle have a different use and two end have two uses, one has a rod you could pull out, the barrels were different on each arm, one a ticket punch and other unknowns, Some seemed interoperable but most were unique. Apprentices in toolshops made their own and sometimes  to order.

    One on the LNWR T key was a key that locked the droplight window to "lock out the Irish ferry passengers" who according to my grandmother could be too eager to get a seat or drunk and get on the wrong rake.