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If the problem only becomes apparent after the development comes into use, you can’t go back and make the developer pay for something else to fix it.”

Meanwhile the residents have to put up with cars parked here there and everywhere because the developers put in too few parking spaces.
We put in some extra yellow lines to deal with parking in inappropriate locations.”

And I have yet to see any parking services come and ticket any inconsiderately parked cars and they never come in the evening or at weekends, so putting double yellow lines down does not deter anyone. 
The Arena has a capacity of 12,000 and has less than 1000 parking spaces. Seems to manage reasonably well.”

Have you seen some of the surrounding streets when concerts etc are on , plenty of cars parked there and that’s with the super tram being nearby, regular and cheap. 

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it seems to be passed as already double yellow lines being put in place ,take this is to satisfy the locals nearby

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Should Sheffield Eagles get promoted to the top tier, their admittance would depend on having a suitable stadium with at least 5000 capacity. Even after promotion, I'd be surprised if they would attract 3000.

One point that hasn't been mentioned is that during the week the car park at the new development would be used as a park and ride which should ease the congestion through Woodseats.

The suggestion of redeveloping Hallam FC's ground would mean losing the cricket pitch and levelling  the football pitch which has a pronounced slope away from the road. They certainly don't have the space up there for a Meadowhead typr development. 

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9 hours ago, bassett one said:

it seems to be passed as already double yellow lines being put in place ,take this is to satisfy the locals nearby

How can anything be passed, they haven't submitted a planning application yet.

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10 hours ago, bassett one said:

it seems to be passed as already double yellow lines being put in place ,take this is to satisfy the locals nearby

The locals have been complaining about parking from the other nearby locations for years. Probably nothing to do with the stadium proposal, because that’s all it is, a proposal. They haven’t submitted a detailed application yet.

 

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10 hours ago, bassett one said:

it seems to be passed as already double yellow lines being put in place ,take this is to satisfy the locals nearby

If you are concerned, do you keep an eye on the planning portal to keep up to date with what is happening?

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19 hours ago, DumDom said:

If the problem only becomes apparent after the development comes into use, you can’t go back and make the developer pay for something else to fix it.”

Meanwhile the residents have to put up with cars parked here there and everywhere because the developers put in too few parking spaces.
We put in some extra yellow lines to deal with parking in inappropriate locations.”

And I have yet to see any parking services come and ticket any inconsiderately parked cars and they never come in the evening or at weekends, so putting double yellow lines down does not deter anyone. 
The Arena has a capacity of 12,000 and has less than 1000 parking spaces. Seems to manage reasonably well.”

Have you seen some of the surrounding streets when concerts etc are on , plenty of cars parked there and that’s with the super tram being nearby, regular and cheap. 

Not figured out how to use the “quote” function yet?

 

Developers use nationally accepted standards to determine the number of parking spaces needed for developments. If the local planners try to insist on significantly more spaces without a very solid justification, the developer will just appeal and probably win. Planning law is heavily weighted in favour of the developer. That’s how the government wants it.
 

Unless the “inconsiderately parked” vehicles are in contravention of a restriction, parking services can’t do anything. 
 

If the locals are seeing vehicles regularly parked in contravention of restrictions that the council can enforce, they should contact parking services and request enforcement action. Enforcement in residential areas is only normally occasional. They don’t have the resources to do it regularly.

 

Also, there’s nothing inherently wrong with drivers parking in residential areas in legitimate parking spaces. Locals may not like it, but it’s a public highway, anyone can park.

 

Yep, Meadowhead has decent bus routes nearby doesn’t it? A good proportion of attendance at any significant event is going to come by public transport, walking, multiple people in vehicles, getting dropped off, taxis etc. Not everyone comes 1 to a car.

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why can they not have a entrance and exit seperate ,but out of intrest no ones said why the football owner has stated who ever passed the st james shopping centre must of been mad ,why say that ?does he think that could be the reason planners may say no?

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30 minutes ago, bassett one said:

why can they not have a entrance and exit seperate ,but out of intrest no ones said why the football owner has stated who ever passed the st james shopping centre must of been mad ,why say that ?does he think that could be the reason planners may say no?

The designers will have looked at the best way of accessing and exiting the site, bearing in mind all the relevant factors,  including the levels of traffic they expect to be coming into / out of the site and conditions on the existing road network, as well as safety. I’d think they will have done some sort of modelling to see what the impacts will be on the local highway network, particularly the junctions.

 

They will also discuss matters like this in pre-application discussions with SCC’s planners.

 

Bear in mind that all you have seen is a visualisation, which doesn’t show all details. The actual layout may be different. 
 

Why do you think the entrance / exit should be split? I’m not sure it makes much sense to put extra traffic onto the A61.

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the existing entrance is not up to standard and lots of cars park on the grass outside the site,plus loads of crashes year on year opposite and its very close to the island ,the st james shopping centre causes problems and this is nearer to the island.

5 hours ago, Planner1 said:

The designers will have looked at the best way of accessing and exiting the site, bearing in mind all the relevant factors,  including the levels of traffic they expect to be coming into / out of the site and conditions on the existing road network, as well as safety. I’d think they will have done some sort of modelling to see what the impacts will be on the local highway network, particularly the junctions.

 

They will also discuss matters like this in pre-application discussions with SCC’s planners.

 

Bear in mind that all you have seen is a visualisation, which doesn’t show all details. The actual layout may be different. 
 

Why do you think the entrance / exit should be split? I’m not sure it makes much sense to put extra traffic onto the A61.

 

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44 minutes ago, bassett one said:

the existing entrance is not up to standard and lots of cars park on the grass outside the site,plus loads of crashes year on year opposite and its very close to the island ,the st james shopping centre causes problems and this is nearer to the island.

 

I’d think it highly unlikely that the development will use the entrance as currently configured, as traffic levels using it will be much higher than now.

 

We don’t know what they have been told is needed by the SCC planners and we won’t know what is being proposed till we see the planning application details, so it’s rather pointless speculating.

 

The collisions at that location generally relate to people turning right into the side road, so wouldn’t relate to the entrance to the sports ground. There  are many improvements that the developer could be conditioned to install / pay for. For example they could be conditioned for the whole junction to be signalised, including their entrance if it was considered necessary. 
 

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Many thanks to Planner1 for the knowledgeable contributions to date.  I hope others (agree or disagree with the poster) would respect and value the contribution this poster has and continues to make to this thread

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