m williamson #13 Posted November 18 4 hours ago, Hopman said: Until today's decision, the bottom three had won a mere three games between them. Everton have won 4 games this season. they have enough momentum to stay up. We frequently hear the mantra "XXX are too good to go down." This is probably true in Everton's case. it won't mean relegation for them, just a lower end position this season and subsequent prize money. Let's not forget that teams on the bottom rungs of the league table are there because of results. Giving a team a points deduction wipes out points, but their goal difference remains better than those teams around them. We understand all that. The point being that the divide between the haves and the have nots has increased substantially over the years since the Premier League has been in existence. There was always a gap between the Big Clubs and the rest of the clubs, but it's now at a point where it's no longer a sport, it's a business, pure and simple. Competitiveness, level playing field, fairness and equality are all things of the past. It's about wealth, money laundering, status, profile building and egotism. The game has sold its soul for money, genuine supporters are of little consequence and it's no longer the peoples game. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99 #14 Posted November 18 (edited) Everton only just survived relegation last season by the skin of their teeth, they were only a few points above Leicester & Leeds. I can see the lawyers getting to work for those two trying to get compensation for the Premiership failing to take action against Everton last season. Edited November 18 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
prince al #15 Posted November 18 They will appeal and have the deduction reduced to 4 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HeHasRisen #16 Posted November 18 44 minutes ago, Baron99 said: Everton only just survived relegation last season by the skin of their teeth, they were only a few points above Leicester & Leeds. I can see the lawyers getting to work for those two trying to get compensation for the Premiership failing to take action against Everton last season. Leeds would have gone down still if Everton had been docked a million points, seems a bizarre stance for them to take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe #17 Posted November 18 Everton are building a new stadium which is the reason why they have broken the rules. The interest on money borrowed is higher than what originally budgeted for. They should not be docked any points due to the circumstances. It is not like Manchester City and Chelsea who bought success due to making massive financial losses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookesey #18 Posted November 19 On 18/11/2023 at 09:03, Baron99 said: Everton only just survived relegation last season by the skin of their teeth, they were only a few points above Leicester & Leeds. I can see the lawyers getting to work for those two trying to get compensation for the Premiership failing to take action against Everton last season. That will do me in respect of the Owls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie #19 Posted November 20 Everton points deduction to be heard in Parliament with early day motion https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67477429 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared #20 Posted November 21 They're also being sued by several clubs, which could see them pushed to bankruptcy and further points deductions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie #21 Posted November 21 5 hours ago, geared said: They're also being sued by several clubs, which could see them pushed to bankruptcy and further points deductions. Are they? Suing and thinking about it aren’t quite the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Prettytom #22 Posted November 27 On 18/11/2023 at 11:43, Axe said: Everton are building a new stadium which is the reason why they have broken the rules. The interest on money borrowed is higher than what originally budgeted for. They should not be docked any points due to the circumstances. It is not like Manchester City and Chelsea who bought success due to making massive financial losses. When you take out a mortgage, you are asked whether you can afford repayments if interest rates rise. So, Everton should have been prepared for the inevitable rise in rates. The rules are clear, so is the punishment. They’ve broken the rules, so they have to take the punishment. If they get off on appeal, it will be interesting to see how Wednesday and Derby respond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe #23 Posted November 27 8 hours ago, Prettytom said: When you take out a mortgage, you are asked whether you can afford repayments if interest rates rise. So, Everton should have been prepared for the inevitable rise in rates. The rules are clear, so is the punishment. They’ve broken the rules, so they have to take the punishment. If they get off on appeal, it will be interesting to see how Wednesday and Derby respond. Not really the same because there is no issue about Everton not repaying the borrowed money. Funding a new stadium during a time of unexpected interest rate rises is mitigating circumstances for breaking the rule. Different circumstances for Wednesday and Derby so whatever happens makes no difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch #24 Posted November 27 Never fear, Wirral MP on it! Even Burnham getting in on the act Andy Burnham hits out at Premier League’s Everton penalty https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/26/andy-burnham-hits-out-at-premier-league-everton-penalty-abuse-of-process Lets just hope he doesn't get a taxi down there to voice his support Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...