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[Chekhov]

6 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Fair enough - although I have a 'smart' phone, with a very small data allowance -which  is never used, but there if I need it. And it stays locked, and unable to dial out, unless I physically unlock it.

I am pretty sure if I had a smart phone I'd get sucked into using it !

[RollingJ]

3 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

I am pretty sure if I had a smart phone I'd get sucked into using it !

No willpower!

[Ghozer]

4 hours ago, Chekhov said:

So why did my old Nokia 2310 never make an emergency call then ?

Have they change the "regulations" since that was manufactured ?

It was a different phone, different shape, different buttons etc.
It probably just never happened.
I had it happen on an old phone of mine (about 10 or so years ago) but it hasn't happened on one since.

And no, regulations have not changed.... Its been that way since '87

[Chekhov]

1 hour ago, Ghozer said:

It was a different phone, different shape, different buttons etc.
It probably just never happened.
I had it happen on an old phone of mine (about 10 or so years ago) but it hasn't happened on one since.

And no, regulations have not changed.... Its been that way since '87

Well, whether it's been that way since 1987 or not I still think it's a stupid idea, and the fact the owner cannot modify it is out of order.

[Chekhov]

 

On 22/11/2023 at 15:14, Ghozer said:

It was a different phone, different shape, different buttons etc.
It probably just never happened.
I had it happen on an old phone of mine (about 10 or so years ago) but it hasn't happened on one since.

And no, regulations have not changed.... Its been that way since '87

I have managed to reactivate my Nokia 2310 and whilst its "1" button is locked, it's "9" button is not.

However, the older phone required you to dial 9 three times and then press call within a few seconds or it resets.

On the newer Nokia 110 one can accidentally dial 999 when its in "lock", but it remains there for ages (I got bored waiting after 5 minutes...) just waiting for "call" to be accidentally be pressed.

The 110 would also dial 112 even in lock mode, I then pressed "call" not expecting it to do anything (as we're in the UK not the USA) but it appeared to start ringing through so I disconnected the call ASAP. The old phone would not have done that as the "1"appeared to be locked.

 

One could speculate on just how much safer these "advances" make society than the older phones (ignoring the waste of time to the emergency operators from the accidental calls), but I surmise it's as close to zero as it's possible to be without actually being zero.

I can only repeat that in all the years I used my old Nokia 2310 it never accidentally dialled through to the emergency services. 

Edited November 29 by Chekhov

[Ghozer]

19 hours ago, Chekhov said:

 

I have managed to reactivate my Nokia 2310 and whilst its "1" button is locked, it's "9" button is not.

However, the older phone required you to dial 9 three times and then press call within a few seconds or it resets.

On the newer Nokia 110 one can accidentally dial 999 when its in "lock", but it remains there for ages (I got bored waiting after 5 minutes...) just waiting for "call" to be accidentally be pressed.

The 110 would also dial 112 even in lock mode, I then pressed "call" not expecting it to do anything (as we're in the UK not the USA) but it appeared to start ringing through so I disconnected the call ASAP. The old phone would not have done that as the "1"appeared to be locked.

 

One could speculate on just how much safer these "advances" make society than the older phones (ignoring the waste of time to the emergency operators from the accidental calls), but I surmise it's as close to zero as it's possible to be without actually being zero.

I can only repeat that in all the years I used my old Nokia 2310 it never accidentally dialled through to the emergency services. 

Why wouldn't 112 do anything? that's the number that is 'standard' across the EU member countries (and us as we WERE part of it when that was introduced in 1995) it's also part of the GSM standard for over here!

 911 is for the US! 

Edited Thursday at 17:10 by Ghozer

[Chekhov]

25 minutes ago, Ghozer said:

Why wouldn't 112 do anything? that's the number that is 'standard' across the EU member countries (and us as we WERE part of it when that was introduced in 1995) it's also part of the GSM standard for over here!

 911 is for the US! 

I didn't think the "1" bottom worked in lock when I tested it last night, but it's quite faff testing it properly as I have to put the SIM in (from my other phone) or the lock feature won't work.

Edited Thursday at 17:35 by Chekhov