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2 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Ive already explained it. Venues admitting loads of youngster have to make every effort to ensure they retain their license and some will ID everyone, what ID do you expect 18-21 year old students to have? Many likely wont be driving and therefore that leaves passports only, many venues dont like the free ID Cards you can apply for as they can be easily faked.

 

The alternative is they dont get in the venue whilst all their mates do.

Never like that when I used to do the "West Street Wobble" back in the 60s :hihi:

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1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

I don’t carry any  id .

You arent an 18 year old slip of a girl though are you :)

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3 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

You arent an 18 year old slip of a girl though are you :)

Not today .

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7 minutes ago, Padders said:

Never like that when I used to do the "West Street Wobble" back in the 60s :hihi:

Attitudes to and enforcement of alcohol retailing were very different 60 years ago, of course, and there was very little, if any, social responsibility. Modern Life Is Rubbish, or something.

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1 hour ago, Irene Swaine said:

They told me. 

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I didn't have a drink there. I read a sign which said about what they are doing outside when it was closed. I would never go to a bar like this

 

You walked up to a closed bar, that you had no interest in visiting, read a sign on the wall about their ID practices, then went back or contacted them later on to quiz them further on it?

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

 

You walked up to a closed bar, that you had no interest in visiting, read a sign on the wall about their ID practices, then went back or contacted them later on to quiz them further on it?

 

 

 

I read the sign, I then came here to warn people. It's creepy, potentially illegal (most probably) and off putting. We don't know who the owner is or whether has has a DBS check. You can find out a lot about people with their name and date of birth. 

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2 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

I read the sign, I then came here to warn people. It's creepy, potentially illegal (most probably) and off putting. We don't know who the owner is or whether has has a DBS check. You can find out a lot about people with their name and date of birth. 

So it is all your interpretation, and you have done nothing other than 'read a sign'?

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4 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

I read the sign

So they havent actually "told you" anything then?

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12 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

I read the sign, I then came here to warn people. It's creepy, potentially illegal (most probably) and off putting. We don't know who the owner is or whether has has a DBS check. You can find out a lot about people with their name and date of birth. 

So when did 'they' tell you, and who are 'they'?

 

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They told me. 

 

 

 

I actually don't entirely disagree with you on the points you raise but, I'm trying to be fair to the bar here because we don't seem to have all the information, i.e. their confirmation of their side of the story.

 

If it was just any old bar like One Four One is, I doubt I'd bother letting them scan anything, but somewhere like -  for example - Dempseys it's not unusual for them to have a copy of ID which they then ask for at subsequent visits, mainly for safety reasons. 

 

I've no idea of the legalities behind it all though. If Dempseys have sold some of the info on my driving licence, I doubt it's the worst bit of data harvesting I've been subject to in my life. A Tesco clubcard record is probably more valuable!

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It's not illegal. Many bar/clubs/venues have ID scanners.  If your really worried contact the bar and ask them what they do with the data.

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2 hours ago, AndrewC said:

So when did 'they' tell you, and who are 'they'?

 

 

 

 

I actually don't entirely disagree with you on the points you raise but, I'm trying to be fair to the bar here because we don't seem to have all the information, i.e. their confirmation of their side of the story.

 

If it was just any old bar like One Four One is, I doubt I'd bother letting them scan anything, but somewhere like -  for example - Dempseys it's not unusual for them to have a copy of ID which they then ask for at subsequent visits, mainly for safety reasons. 

 

I've no idea of the legalities behind it all though. If Dempseys have sold some of the info on my driving licence, I doubt it's the worst bit of data harvesting I've been subject to in my life. A Tesco clubcard record is probably more valuable!

They = the bar. The bar had a poster up which told me the information, including that they KEEP details on file.

 

I would not give such details to anyone who is not a FCA regulated organisation, such as a bank, or a government body, such as Sheffield City Council. 

 

The bar owner is a civillian and not a government authority. I would not trust them with my details. 

45 minutes ago, Zinger549 said:

It's not illegal. Many bar/clubs/venues have ID scanners.  If your really worried contact the bar and ask them what they do with the data.

I already know what they do with it, they keep it on file, the question is, why, who has access to it and what are they doing with it? Why would a bar owner want to collect details of other people's security documents?

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