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1 hour ago, Delayed said:

Learn to read. 

 

You can't stop people travelling and arriving by boat unless you change International and Maritime Law which requires the approval of other countries. 

 

We can change Domestic Law but that only affects how we deal with people when they've already entered the UK. And people like you don't want people entering the UK. 

 

So yes, we have to accept immigrants (Muslim specific or not) will enter the UK by any means. 

 

And yes that means the Taxpayer has to accommodate them until they can either be granted permission to stay or deported.

 

That's the immigration system in a nutshell. 

 

What is insane is some of the moronic suggestions to stop people arriving in the first place. 

Ok, I’m going to ask again questions you haven’t answered.  Should we accept unlimited numbers of asylum seekers?  Anyone and everyone?  Do we give them all unlimited benefits and a nice little house each?  No expense spared?  If you answer yes, to these please explain where the money for this is coming from and how you justify it when many families with UK heritage are struggling in a cost of living crisis.  Please don’t skirt around these questions, answer them directly.
Next, on the subject of male/female ratios in small boats you claim it’s unfair/ incorrect to claim they are predominantly young men.  People think this because that is what is seen in the news (by that I mean mainstream news such as BBC) not the likes of GB news.  But you just claim they are idiots being duped by TikTok videos.  Then when asked what evidence you have to the contrary, you admit you have none.  And then claim neither do those saying it’s mostly young men.  Well maybe they don’t have statistical evidence but they do have eyes.  And those eyes see who is on the boats.  You however have neither statistical evidence or even news footage.

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Just now, Delayed said:

I do but it’s only a small percentage of those that are entering on a daily basis so its figure is not representative of the whole situation 

But it could be extrapolated - as much data is.

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7 minutes ago, Delayed said:

Still waiting for your 90% evidence 

would you like a lesson on how to use a search engine, 3 words ......  

 

90% male boats

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Just now, redruby said:

Ok, I’m going to ask again questions you haven’t answered.  Should we accept unlimited numbers of asylum seekers? 
 

Anyone and everyone?  
 

Yes. Because we can’t turn anyone away before they claim asylum and that includes anyone and everyone. 

Just now, redruby said:

Do we give them all unlimited benefits and a nice little house each?  No expense spared?  

If you answer yes, to these please explain where the money for this is coming from and how you justify it when many families with UK heritage are struggling in a cost of living crisis.  Please don’t skirt around these questions, answer them directly.

No. We don’t give them unlimited benefits. But we do as we’re doing and support them until their claim is decided.  So at the moment, Asylum seekers are giving basic support (Less than average benefits) and yes they need a roof over their heads. It’s not their fault that the government has run out of local housing and accommodation so that they are forced to put them up in whatever hotel is available.

 

 

Just now, redruby said:

 


Next, on the subject of male/female ratios in small boats you claim it’s unfair/

incorrect to claim they are predominantly young men.  People think this because that is what is seen in the news (by that I mean mainstream news such as BBC) not the likes of GB news.  But you just claim they are idiots being duped by TikTok videos. 

 

Then when asked what evidence you have to the contrary, you admit you have none.  And then claim neither do those saying it’s mostly young men.  Well maybe they don’t have statistical evidence but they do have eyes.  And those eyes see who is on the boats.  You however have neither statistical evidence or even news footage.

And as I’ve said, people have no statistical evidence to show that they are predominantly young males other than their eyes. So on that basis I’ve seen women and children come off boats.

 

So who’s right?

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2 minutes ago, fools said:

would you like a lesson on how to use a search engine, 3 words ......  

 

90% male boats

So what are you going to do with that figure apart from try to have a perfectly pointless argument.

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3 minutes ago, fools said:

would you like a lesson on how to use a search engine, 3 words ......  

 

90% male boats

You probably want to through the name of a country in there too. Wouldn’t want you confusing asylum seekers with other countries 

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2 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

So what are you going to do with that figure apart from try to have a perfectly pointless argument.

form an opinion, and counter misinformation

 

you've done the dublin agreement line repeatedly, you can leave now, your job is done

2 minutes ago, Delayed said:

You probably want to through the name of a country in there too. Wouldn’t want you confusing asylum seekers with other countries 

not necessary, you're wasting an awful lot of time avoiding this search, do you suffer from anxiety

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1 minute ago, Delayed said:

You probably want to through the name of a country in there too. Wouldn’t want you confusing asylum seekers with other countries 

You said earlier that  they give us details of who they are and where they are from . How is this confirmed if they " lose" their documents ?

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5 minutes ago, Delayed said:

And yes they need a roof over their heads. It’s not their fault that the government has run out of local housing and accommodation so that they are forced to put them up in whatever hotel is available.

 

 

 

But they choose to travel all the way across Europe and pay thousands to get on a boat to come here  FFS 

 

If they had to sleep on the streets they wouldn't come 

 

Or they'll probably pay for their own hotels 

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2 minutes ago, fools said:

form an opinion, and counter misinformation

 

you've done the dublin agreement line repeatedly, you can leave now, your job is done

not necessary, you're wasting an awful lot of time avoiding this search, do you suffer from anxiety

Nothing to do with anxiety more just a case of not accepting double standards. 
 

I don’t provide links for others that don’t do the same

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17 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

 

The  "taking back control" promises were exactly the reverse of what they have done, which has left us with no control at all.

What is even worse,  is the fact that over time,  climate change and famine,  will drive even more people to migrate and will bring us the same result as people fleeing from war and persecution.

 

 

Won't argue with that but we can't go back and I would like to hear some suggestions on keeping immigration under control.

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1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

You said earlier that  they give us details of who they are and where they are from . How is this confirmed if they " lose" their documents ?

Finally a genuine question. 
 

We share data with other countries, they help verify and the home office have overseas staff to make their own enquiries to verify information. This is partly why asylum claims take so long 

1 minute ago, Jack Grey said:

But they choose to travel all the way across Europe and pay thousands to get on a boat to come here  FFS 

Your point being?

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