Jared O'Mara On Trial - Now Found Guilty

[RollingJ]

7 minutes ago, woodmally1979 said:

He wasnt though he got arrested for his words during the riot he didnt raid the hotel or riot himself he was just protesting. I hope they get all the rioters and bang them up but I think punishment should be proportionate to what they do. Raid a  hotel and threaten people jail definately. Shout a few words like this chap did and as they were offensive community order or suspended sentence.

He failed to leave the area when asked, and IIRC, threatened police officers - which is an arrestable offence.

 

However - can we stick to O'Mara and his antics please, there is a thread about the riots during that period elsewhere on the forum -unless it has been removed.

Edited December 11, 2024 by RollingJ

[SheffieldForum]

1 minute ago, RollingJ said:

He failed to leave the area when asked, and IIRC, threatened police officers - which is an arrestable offence.

 

He also admitted his crimes and pleaded guilty, so...

 

 

 

[RollingJ]

Just now, SheffieldForum said:

 

He also admitted his crimes and pleaded guilty, so...

 

 

 

So..... he got jailed.

[Tony]

17 minutes ago, SheffieldForum said:

 

He also admitted his crimes and pleaded guilty, so...

 

 

 

 

When admission is incentivised for mitigation that's what people do. 

[SheffieldForum]

1 hour ago, Tony said:

 

When admission is incentivised for mitigation that's what people do. 

It is also what people do when they’ve done something illegal and are admitting it.

[Tony]

Just now, SheffieldForum said:

It is also what people do when they’ve done something illegal and are admitting it.

 

Because they are incentivised. You have identified the inherent flaw in the system;

Admit if if you're guilty for mitigation.

Admit it if you're innocent for mitigation. 

 

Seems to me that the innocent have more to lose than the guilty if they pleased their innocence. 

[woodmally1979]

1 hour ago, RollingJ said:

So..... he got jailed.

 

26 minutes ago, Tony said:

 

Because they are incentivised. You have identified the inherent flaw in the system;

Admit if if you're guilty for mitigation.

Admit it if you're innocent for mitigation. 

 

Seems to me that the innocent have more to lose than the guilty if they pleased their innocence. 

And this is the problem. No one is saying  that this guy wasnt guilty, He did commit a crime. And correctly pleaded guilty to it imho. But for me its the sentencing thats wrong. 

 

Taking it back to the main subject Jared. I feel the same about him. It was a waste of taxpayers money (what 1000 per day) keeping him inside. They could have suspended the sentence and given him community service.

 

That would have been more punishment given how much of a work shy bloke he is.

[hackey lad]

5 hours ago, SheffieldForum said:

I don’t think anyone knows for sure at moment.

Probably played the disability card , again .

[Longcol]

9 hours ago, RollingJ said:

@alchresearchBut...but...but she was the wife of a Tory councillor, therefore fair game for our oh-so-correct Granuaid.

 

Wasn't the Grauniad that  get her convicted - it was her post which she admitted was " intending to stir up racial hatred "

Edited December 11, 2024 by Longcol

[woodmally1979]

10 hours ago, Longcol said:

 

Wasn't the Grauniad that  get her convicted - it was her post which she admitted was " intending to stir up racial hatred "

You are correct and yes she should have been punished. But do you think jailing her was appropriate. One of the crux of this so called two tier policing is that people dont see the punishment as proportionate and on that I agree. We only have a finite number of jail places and it costs to put them behind bars.  So does it really warrent jail time. 

 

If they are a risk to the public or attacked someone and that person deserves justice then yes. But not for this. 

 

Same with Jared prison isnt the answer why were we paying 1000s to keep him behind bars when we could have punished him more severe and given him community service. He would absolutely hate doing actual work.